This is exactly like in nineties and also later some were trying to do anti-microsoft movement.
Expunging Google
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Re: Expunging Google
#122Cool. Now show me how you're going to expunge server-side Google Analytics from your life.
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#123Most important thing is to not get so entrenched in one technology vendor or another. They are not part of you. You're not an Apple person or a Google person - that's just how companies want you to think. Don't let technology choices become part of who you think you are. Use tech that helps you until it doesn't. Always have an exit plan. Don't get emotionally attached to one company or emotionally put off another. Th…
This is the comment that should be at the top of this thread.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
You must have not been paying attention. A long list of evidence has been posted here on HN on several occassionas, including dropping CalDAV, of Google turning against the open web. It's nothing new either, it has been going on for years. They've even dropped their support for net neutrality years ago. In the mean time Google has been heavily pushing the Google+ walled garden, their anti-privacy and anti-anonymity a…
> HN on several occassionas 3 if I count correctly: Reader closedown (which, in my opinion, not a hit to open web at all), XMPP Federation issue (It's fixed now) and CalDAV whitelist (Not closedown, whitelist).
Doesn't whitelisting amount to closing of interface? They may very well use the CalDav protocol which is open, but how good is it if the consumption interface is not open?
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll still happily use Chromium for web development, as and where necessary. Just not signed in to Google for sync, etc. etc. I do wonder though ... would you have described the formation of the FSF as a childish temper tantrum? I remember the days when to use Linux as a development OS was painful ... it worked out well in the end though :)
FSF is an ideal. The ideal that all software is open source so that it's more secure and has all the other benefits of open source. What you're doing is being childish. "Boo hoo, big bad Google killed a product I liked, so I'm going to make some bullshit arguments to stop using ALL their products." I don't use all of Google's products, but I use a subset because they get the job done well. If you think killing off re…
That is one way to look at it. The other is: Google is creating a walled garden on Google Plus, and pushing it with all its might. Walled gardens are contrary to the ideal of an open web.
In that vein, boycotting Google is as much idealistic as boycotting closed software.
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#126Just like everybody else said, Google is not moving against the open web. Rather the opposite. The only thing I agree with is the part where Google tries to get everybody to use Google only, which makes sense considering Google can be compared to a small empire. I mean, has anyone seen the office buildings that Google has? As for Chrome, I think Webkit (or now Blink) is where web happens fastest. All new web experime…
> and you gotta go where the majority goes
... which is why we all still use Internet Explorer.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too bad you are so hard trying to make your point you lose connection with reality. Android, in its core, is so entirely different then iOS that saying "following in Apple's footsteps" is just wrong. What has changed in recent major (!!) iOS updates? Twitter & Facebook integration.. Seriously? While Android 4 revamped the entire user interface, streamlined ui & ux and allowed for buttonless phones (apart from power).…
Those are not innovations, those are incremental improvements. (If you want to call all minor improvements innovation then, well, everyone's innovative.) Innovations are new products and new ideas . Of course Android is following in Apple's footsteps; Apple came first, after all, and established everything that Android has since also implemented. Whatever Google is doing, it's an incremental improvement on that revol…
I would argue that an open smartphone ecosystem is innovative. Not original, but innovative.
Google Now IS innovative.
Google's method for voice recognition is certainly innovative, as are the myriad ways in which they have implemented that core technology.
Google voice (grandcentral) was certainly innovative; the calling system and the text transcription in most specific.
My main problem with your exchange is my perception of you constantly moving the goalposts. I don't see how you can categorically reject 'technical, low-visibility innovation' unless your argument is presupposed.
Furthermore, most of these achievements are acquire/hires, and we have seen the big G push these purchased assets into new features or products. I would argue that this capability IS the basic facility to innovate the marketplace.
(gmail has indeed revolutionized webmail, both in size of free storage and in the mailbox organizational methods)
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#128Cool. Now show me how you're going to expunge server-side Google Analytics from your life.
If you mean replacing analytics for your website, piwik is the answer : http://piwik.org/
If you mean not being tracked by analytics, well, it's quite simple :
# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1 www.google-analytics.com googleadservices.com
edit: formatting
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#129Even assuming Google is not being malicious--and I think that's a broadly safe assumption--I'm still concerned. I'm am significantly over-reliant on Google's serviced: my email, my calendar, my OpenID, my web search, my videos, my phone, my maps, my web browser... (Well, I do use Firefox now.) It's a single point of failure. A rather scary one at that. Some of these things do not have good alternatives. My phone? I c…
Could you explain how Apple is malicious? That's quite an assertion and not one I've previously heard.
Going 'thermonuclear' over product competition
capricious, callus, and combative app store submission process
anti-competitive & likely-illegal publication conspiracy
hoarding profits overseas and refusing to pay taxes for the environment that spawned their successes.
censorship of users media
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#130For replacing Google Groups, you should check out Groupsapces, a UK company. http://groupspaces.com/
A free plan gets you two lists of 50 members, and there are many paid options. I've been using it for a group in my local community for over a year now and am very pleased with the product.