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In India, 'no frills' hospitals offer $800 heart surgery

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Re: In India, 'no frills' hospitals offer $800 heart surgery

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I visited China for a week. I felt China's inflation is horrible. Everything costs 1.5 to 3x more when compared to India.

wtf!! Dont attribute it to inflation, it is called "Cost of living index".

>wtf!!

A bit of civility would help.

Re: In India, 'no frills' hospitals offer $800 heart surgery

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post #111

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wtf!! Dont attribute it to inflation, it is called "Cost of living index".

>wtf!! A bit of civility would help.

sorry, i was just overwhelmed at this. I expected a bit more intelligence on HN. I apologize for the language!

Re: In India, 'no frills' hospitals offer $800 heart surgery

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Correct. The problem is that a simple system like that is similar to car insurance, it only helps you pay for catastrophe. The reason US health insurance is so expensive is because we tried to institute a health plan via insurance that tries to do things like address chronic conditions and preventative care. There are many problems with that, but the point is that India has only solved the easy problem. We are in the…

The reason US health insurance is so expensive is because we tried to institute a health plan via insurance that tries to do things like address chronic conditions and preventative care. False. Every other developed country has solved this problem while paying less - in most cases substantially less - than the USA. This while, according to a variety of statistics, getting better health outcomes. There are a lot of re…

Oh I don't disagree with you. I meant that the reason "insurance" costs so much is because we tried to shoehorn other countries' systems into an insurance scheme. Indian insurance is much closer to what actual insurance is like, so it's much cheaper.

Re: In India, 'no frills' hospitals offer $800 heart surgery

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Correct. The problem is that a simple system like that is similar to car insurance, it only helps you pay for catastrophe. The reason US health insurance is so expensive is because we tried to institute a health plan via insurance that tries to do things like address chronic conditions and preventative care. There are many problems with that, but the point is that India has only solved the easy problem. We are in the…

How do we equitably manage the healthcare of the entire nation that gives the rich and poor alike quality health care. (Assuming "we" means India, though I don't live there anymore.) Fix corruption, the licensing system, the protectionism, etc, so that they become wealthier. Make the rest of the economy as capitalistic as the medical system. It's hard to fix anything with a GDP/capita The real problem is that price t…

Sorry! I was talking about the US, which is the system I sort of kind of barely understand. Other than what the GP said, I don't know much about India. I was just addressing the sentiment that India's insurance scheme should be transplanted here and that it would fix a lot of things.

Re: In India, 'no frills' hospitals offer $800 heart surgery

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Correct. The problem is that a simple system like that is similar to car insurance, it only helps you pay for catastrophe. The reason US health insurance is so expensive is because we tried to institute a health plan via insurance that tries to do things like address chronic conditions and preventative care. There are many problems with that, but the point is that India has only solved the easy problem. We are in the…

How do we equitably manage the healthcare of the entire nation that gives the rich and poor alike quality health care. (Assuming "we" means India, though I don't live there anymore.) Fix corruption, the licensing system, the protectionism, etc, so that they become wealthier. Make the rest of the economy as capitalistic as the medical system. It's hard to fix anything with a GDP/capita The real problem is that price t…

(I am only addressing the US).

Price shopping happens when the payer is directly affected by the costs (note: you mentioned your mother is uninsured) and when you can evaluate the quality (or don't care). It's actually very difficult to evaluate who's good and who isn't because a) statistics aren't often released (because hospitals and doctors block them) and b) the statistics can be difficult to interpret (a good doctor with bad stats can just have a sicker overall population). A big problem was that the data capture to adjust for these factors wasn't there (records were frequently kept on paper and billing codes barely correspond to reality). A big problem has been simply that even when the data was there, it is incredibly expensive to aggregate and report it.

In the US, we are attempting to fix some of these things. Medicare has implemented Quality Metrics and the requirement that doctors implement electronic medical record systems that measure some of the easier things to measure (patient counseled about managing diabetes, summary slip issued at end of visit, et cetera). Hopefully, price transparency plus a modern statistical reporting system will result in price shopping being viable in the next decade (of course the patient must be willing to discriminate).

Re: In India, 'no frills' hospitals offer $800 heart surgery

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I live near Manipal Hospital in Bangalore and had to stay with a friend in there, thrice in last 6-7 months. Maybe he likes it there too and I often go to their cafeteria(outside) which is cheap and good. I meet so many foreigners here. I've talked to them; they simply say it's very good - service, expertise - and it's a f *ing loot! And no, this is no such no-frills hospital. So, if you are from a western country an…

Why is there no business in the US yet that matches healthcare consumers with these Indian operations? A healthcare travel agent if you will.

As others pointed out, this medical tourism niche definitely exists and so does dental tourism. Getting a root canal while taking a mexican or thai vacation.
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