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Re: A new search engine

#21

Better in the what sense? Its not better in respective to speed of returning the results.

Google has 100 people searching every thing that can be searched. We have to do the work when you do the search. We get faster the more people use us. Exponentially.

Re: A new search engine

#22

About 1 month ago I switched from google to bing. There different queries that use the to measure 'better'. For simple queries 'strncmp', 'giraffe', 'sound transit schedule' ... Google, Bing and Samuru perform pretty well. But Samuru is extremely slow. For more complex queries like, 'seattle dumpling restaurant that is famous in singapore' or 'how to zip a list in ruby'. I find that Google always comes out on top, bi…

Do your search a second time. Our index isn't exhaustive yet, and we are slow if we haven't seen enough of the results pages before. We generate the summaries and a bunch of other things after something has appeared in a search result. This is because we aren't a billion dollar company and have to be efficient in our indexing.

Re: A new search engine

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post #10

I'm willing to have an open mind about this, but I think some sort of explanation on what samuru is hoping to achieve in distinction from other search engines would be helpful.

I posted an explanation in the comments. I didn't post this, or expect it to be posted so I didn't write anything up in advance.

Re: A new search engine

#24
OK. My first try was to search for "plato dialogue concerning friendship". Google gave me the result I expected (a reference to the Lysis dialogue) through wikipedia and a bunch of articles about it (the most helpful being a link to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, ranked third). It didn't link the text though in the first page (it only appears in the third page of results, with a copy at the MIT Classics archive). Samuru gives me a bunch of general articles on Plato first (oddly enough, the first results are articles from the SEP, but not the article on "Plato on Friendship and Eros".), some noise and then information on the Lysis. The text itself appeared at 25th place.

Something I find interesting is that one of the snippets samuru gave me (on the 5th result) has a pretty good description of the lysis as the item most likely to be the "plato dialogue concerning friendship": "the dramatically later Lysis presents Plato's more developed understanding of love and friendship than the dramatically earlier Symposium and Phaedrus". From this description of the Lysis one could gather that the text of the Lysis itself should be a very relevant result to the query; at the very least, that information about it should be weighted as more relevant to the query than info on the Symposium or the Phaedrus, and then info on those over all else. From this, I think, one could build a better representation of a good answer to the query than in google or samuru.

I think natural language analysis is very promising here. I hope work on this area yields good results, but it seems like a hard problem.

Re: A new search engine

#26

Aside from the different processing on the back-end, what else does samuru do? I'm curious. Disclaimer: I'm the guy behind Nuuton (a search engine).

Summaries instead of Snippets. Document Type to Query Type Matching (looks like you are looking for a review we favor reviews, looks like you are looking for instructions we favor how to's)

Re: A new search engine

#27
post #15

I didn't submit this. I didn't know anyone was submitting it. Or I would have written a post about why it is different than other search engines. Better is still up for grabs because it is new. Samuru doesn't use link authority, it analyzes pages and matches what you queried to the types of pages and picks the best matches. Let me give you an example. You search for "How to Make cupcakes" Google says give me the page…

Hey Brandon, congrats on launching Samuru! I'll be curious what you think of running a search engine after being an SEO for so many years.

Re: A new search engine

#28
post #15

I didn't submit this. I didn't know anyone was submitting it. Or I would have written a post about why it is different than other search engines. Better is still up for grabs because it is new. Samuru doesn't use link authority, it analyzes pages and matches what you queried to the types of pages and picks the best matches. Let me give you an example. You search for "How to Make cupcakes" Google says give me the page…

Hey Brandon, congrats on launching Samuru! I'll be curious what you think of running a search engine after being an SEO for so many years.

Matt, any insight for people wanting to build new search areas out?

Re: A new search engine

#29
post #26

Aside from the different processing on the back-end, what else does samuru do? I'm curious. Disclaimer: I'm the guy behind Nuuton (a search engine).

Summaries instead of Snippets. Document Type to Query Type Matching (looks like you are looking for a review we favor reviews, looks like you are looking for instructions we favor how to's)

I wonder why you decided to follow the same old search formula. There is so much to innovate in this area. For example, Nuuton uses #hashtags for trending results. Say you go and make a search. All related terms would appear as #hashtags somewhere in the page. These are created by the users and by the system. It also uses the / and the ! to filter results in different ways. Say: /Honda !modified, gets you pages of modified Hondas. Click on a #hashtag, say #turbocharged, and you would get turbocharged Hondas. Why so many tools that appear to do the same thing? They are close in functionality, but affect different factors in the back end.

Re: A new search engine

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post #15

I didn't submit this. I didn't know anyone was submitting it. Or I would have written a post about why it is different than other search engines. Better is still up for grabs because it is new. Samuru doesn't use link authority, it analyzes pages and matches what you queried to the types of pages and picks the best matches. Let me give you an example. You search for "How to Make cupcakes" Google says give me the page…

Hey Brandon, congrats on launching Samuru! I'll be curious what you think of running a search engine after being an SEO for so many years.

I am enjoying it. We went with the approach of how can we make this impossible for Brandon Wirtz to game. How can we make this about the content more than a popularity contest.

Now that we are both in the business of stopping spam we should grab lunch sometime.

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