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CipherCloud used DMCA Takedown on StackExchange discussion of their cryptography

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Re: CipherCloud used DMCA Takedown on StackExchange discussion of their cryptography

#21
Now let the Streisand effect do its work...

(I made a snapshot of the page from Google's cache only to discover that at least two others used the very same service within the last hour to do exactly the same...and there are a few services to snapshot web pages.)

Re: CipherCloud used DMCA Takedown on StackExchange discussion of their cryptography

#23

Google cache of question in...question (lol): http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FYBbAFU...

That looks really horrible and I am somewhat tempted to write and publish a GreaseMonkey script that does bad things to CipherCloud protected pages...

Re: CipherCloud used DMCA Takedown on StackExchange discussion of their cryptography

#24
post #23

Google cache of question in...question (lol): http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FYBbAFU...

That looks really horrible and I am somewhat tempted to write and publish a GreaseMonkey script that does bad things to CipherCloud protected pages...

Why would you (or anyone) deliberately try to hurt a company? Just because their tech is not 'on par'? Please think about how it would hurt that company and the employees (and their families!).

Re: CipherCloud used DMCA Takedown on StackExchange discussion of their cryptography

#25
We should start a collection of these kinds of stories as case studies in why laws allowing any entity to legally compel removal of content are ripe for abuse.

DMCA as a law isn't even that ridiculous or reprehensible; it mostly offers protection for websites that have user-submitted content. And yet here we are.

The damages clause needs to be strengthened if we wish to continue having free speech on the internet.

Re: CipherCloud used DMCA Takedown on StackExchange discussion of their cryptography

#26
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The penalty for materially misrepresenting a DMCA claim is actual damages plus costs and attorney fees. That's automatic, written into the bill, unlike many other torts/crimes where you need exceptional circumstances to get attorneys fees in addition to the damages.

Except that 512(f) of DMCA is practically unenforceable [1], since the standard is to prove that they "knowingly materially" misrepresented: [1] http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2013/04/another_512f_cl...

The outrageous thing is that even though this is a very clear-cut case of abuse you are probably right.

Re: CipherCloud used DMCA Takedown on StackExchange discussion of their cryptography

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That looks really horrible and I am somewhat tempted to write and publish a GreaseMonkey script that does bad things to CipherCloud protected pages...

Why would you (or anyone) deliberately try to hurt a company? Just because their tech is not 'on par'? Please think about how it would hurt that company and the employees (and their families!).

Why would a company (deliberately) try to sell a false sense of security to anyone whose knowledge of cryptography is not 'on par'? Please think about how it might hurt these customers and their employees (and their families!).
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