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Boston Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Apprehended Alive

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Re: Boston Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Apprehended Alive

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On twitter a lot of people are essentially saying "Good, now we'll get answers." I'm sorry to say I don't believe there is typically anything satisfying about the answers of people who become deranged. Maybe this time, but if reading about madmen past is any guide, its very unlikely that we will be enlightened by any testimony. Answer is really simple: in his own world /subculture he is a hero, a martyr and his name…

Or maybe it's the OTHER simple and cultural answer: they were seen as "losers", then lost it and decided to kill random people. Pretty much like Columbine and all the other "seemingly normal kid kills random people with guns" incidents that keep happening, again and again. It doesn't matter, though - at this point, it's all just random speculation.

Maybe, but I've read about Chechnya.

I'd bet on the religion angle. Especially the young generation can be very motivated as they seek their identity.

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Some of the people I regularly follow on Twitter were literally in disbelief over hearing this about someone they thought they knew - "please take him alive" they pleaded. It was awful to see someone be so wrong about a person, as it became more and more certain that he was indeed one of the people involved in the bombing.

Wait, what? You follow people on twitter who knew this nobody?

There are probably lots of people who are within 2 degrees of separation of this guy.

Re: Boston Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Apprehended Alive

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Unlikely. He is very much against Islamic terrorism, and this is apparently just that case.

If someone who happens to be Christian carries out terrorism, is this Christian terrorism? Or do we have a special exception for Muslims who carry out terrorism, that their terrorism is Islamic terrorism?

"Terrorism" means more than just doing very bad things. Terrorism is violence against innocent people in order to further a cause.

Both Adam Lanza and the Beslan terrorists[1] killed lots of kids. But only the Beslan killers were terrorists. They hoped to further the goal of Chechen independence from Russia. Lanza was just a homicidal maniac.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis

Re: Boston Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Apprehended Alive

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Wait, what? You follow people on twitter who knew this nobody?

There are probably lots of people who are within 2 degrees of separation of this guy.

Anyone who went to college in Boston can probably find a connection in a couple degrees.

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I wonder how they'll find a jury that doesn't already think he's guilty.

Well, look at the currently top comment ( http://tf-575.com/images/renders/ ), they are victims, see... A jury is possible, yes.

Heh, no idea what it was.

Update: wow. WTF is this? :-)

Thanks for all the upvotes...

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Unlikely. He is very much against Islamic terrorism, and this is apparently just that case.

He's defended MEK, which seems to be both Marxist and Islamist, although admittedly also anti-Iranian-Government.

Well, he is a complicated figure.

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If someone who happens to be Christian carries out terrorism, is this Christian terrorism? Or do we have a special exception for Muslims who carry out terrorism, that their terrorism is Islamic terrorism?

It depends. If the act is clearly motivated by religion and directed at perceived enemies of the religion then it is plainly religious terrorism. If the religion of the perpetrator is clearly irrelevant (e.g. a political cause, and the terrorists and perpetrators are of the same religion) then it is plainly not religious terrorism. In between are grey areas that can be argued case by case.

Yes, and I guess I could have verbalized it more, but it seems like that need (to verbalize) appears every time anything like this is mentioned. So maybe the verbalization is not so important after all.

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He's defended MEK, which seems to be both Marxist and Islamist, although admittedly also anti-Iranian-Government.

Well, he is a complicated figure.

I was inspired to read more about him (I just knew him as "the best lawyer if you're ever facing anything non-tech and interesting"). Amazing.
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