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Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by rplacd »

reeses wrote: post #10
homosaur wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

confusing and overfeatured?

Different from each perspective! For handsome, smart, educated, awesome, people such as myself, it is a lifetime of treasures, hidden within RSI-inducing key bindings, no matter where on the keyboard one puts C and M. For leprous, primitivist, stinky, bottom-feeding, monkey-scratchers, it may be a befuddling plethora of options and flexibility that forces the user to form their own opinions regarding the pursuit of g…

I feel a bit filthy now after realizing my knowledge of named functions to M-x far outnumber the keybindings I've got down pat by a 10:1 ratio.

And yet I don't feel particularly encumbered. Call it a case of the customer only being able to think of a faster horse.

Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by RBerenguel »

DigitalJack wrote: post #19
kindahero wrote: post #5

Org is very active, high profile project, the number of changes from previous major release are just amazing. git diff release_7.01 release_8.0 --stat [snip] 352 files changed, 119010 insertions(+), 80849 deletions(-)

Org has 352+ files? I plead ignorance, but that strikes me as absurd.

The emacs lisp tradition (or at least this is how I see it) splits functionality among files. As explained in the changes, there are files like ob-julia.el to work with the Julia programming language in Babel (literate proframming system in org) There is a file for language, for example. There's also the documentation and auxiliary files. I don't see where the problem is, org is huge but easily hackable due to this splitting

Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by pseut »

rodly wrote: post #9

I'm interested in using org-mode to take notes in class. Anyone have any resources for getting started? I'm using latest OSX.

I'll be the dick that suggests not using org mode for class notes; I typed up my lecture notes in it 4 years ago (for the class I teach) and there have been several backwards incompatible changes to org mode that required a few hours of debugging to get indenting, etc. to work correctly with my old files (yes, in a plain text outline).

Now, these are huge files, so my use case is pushing it, but you'll want to be able to use and modify your lecture notes for years, so I'd suggest something lighter weight like a plain markdown file.

Whatever you do, take care of version control and backup.

Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by pseut »

rplacd wrote: post #21
reeses wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different from each perspective! For handsome, smart, educated, awesome, people such as myself, it is a lifetime of treasures, hidden within RSI-inducing key bindings, no matter where on the keyboard one puts C and M. For leprous, primitivist, stinky, bottom-feeding, monkey-scratchers, it may be a befuddling plethora of options and flexibility that forces the user to form their own opinions regarding the pursuit of g…

I feel a bit filthy now after realizing my knowledge of named functions to M-x far outnumber the keybindings I've got down pat by a 10:1 ratio. And yet I don't feel particularly encumbered. Call it a case of the customer only being able to think of a faster horse.

yes, but M-x letter letter TAB can work pretty well and is easy to get down pat.

Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by ordinary »

DigitalJack wrote: post #19
kindahero wrote: post #5

Org is very active, high profile project, the number of changes from previous major release are just amazing. git diff release_7.01 release_8.0 --stat [snip] 352 files changed, 119010 insertions(+), 80849 deletions(-)

Org has 352+ files? I plead ignorance, but that strikes me as absurd.

Org 7.9.2 (the version I have installed here) is 113 emacs lisp files, for a total of 85k LoC and slightly over 3 MB of code.

I'm not exactly sure what that git diff --stat command pasted above actually compared, but I don't think it's correct.

Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by berntb »

virtualmic wrote: post #14
jazzychad wrote: post #3

I love org-mode. I have never found an online todo-list or task manager that I like to use... but plain-text lists fit my mental model perfectly. org-mode is plain text on steroids... also the clocking abilities while doing tasks is incredible.

Yup, me too. I use it exclusively to manage all my ongoing projects, whether related to programming or not. The way it handles contexts (I do it via tags), ToDo keywords, numerous custom agenda views, is just plain awesome! Just the other day I was thinking of a good web front, which can be made for org files which are in Dropbox or something. Then, when on a computer with emacs, those files can be edited via emacs a…

There is a quite neat Org Mode parser on CPAN.

I started doing a webapp like you talk about, since I needed to learn JavaScript. I call it Attorg, "atto org". I never planned on doing more than an absolutely minimal feature list, since people can use a terminal implementation in the browser (for e.g. Babel).

But I began a new job a month ago. The web side is at most half done for MVP. The server side is three pages of code (using said CPAN module).

My use case was a nicer and simple version for my iPad than the normal iPhone/iPad app. I never figured out how to do a nice menu system for commands, most of it is ~ normal key codes.

Since it is Emacs related, it will be the latest GPL, of course.

I'll try to get it up on GitHub or something this weekend. If you post an email in your profile I'll send you the address.

(Note what I wrote -- I'm a JavaScript beginner; the less than 40 pages of "Attorg" is ~ half of all JavaScript I've ever written! Also, it really need lots of loving from someone that has taste... [Edit: Both UI and UX.])

Disclaimer: This is so true... http://search.cpan.org/~sharyanto/Org-Parser-0.30/lib/Org/Pa...

Edit: Clarity.

Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by easytiger »

DigitalJack wrote: post #19
kindahero wrote: post #5

Org is very active, high profile project, the number of changes from previous major release are just amazing. git diff release_7.01 release_8.0 --stat [snip] 352 files changed, 119010 insertions(+), 80849 deletions(-)

Org has 352+ files? I plead ignorance, but that strikes me as absurd.

Well why don't you look at them to find out why before you say stuff like that. It isn't exactly a fucking secret. It is quite small at the core and the rest of it is giving added value, like interaction with python, java etc and the large range of output formats etc. Just like a great many software solutions.

http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/tree/lisp?id=5ef07d...

Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by virtualmic »

berntb wrote: post #26
virtualmic wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, me too. I use it exclusively to manage all my ongoing projects, whether related to programming or not. The way it handles contexts (I do it via tags), ToDo keywords, numerous custom agenda views, is just plain awesome! Just the other day I was thinking of a good web front, which can be made for org files which are in Dropbox or something. Then, when on a computer with emacs, those files can be edited via emacs a…

There is a quite neat Org Mode parser on CPAN. I started doing a webapp like you talk about, since I needed to learn JavaScript. I call it Attorg, "atto org". I never planned on doing more than an absolutely minimal feature list, since people can use a terminal implementation in the browser (for e.g. Babel). But I began a new job a month ago. The web side is at most half done for MVP. The server side is three pages o…

I have put up my email address. Would love to look into it!

Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by juanre »

reeses wrote: post #7
codemac wrote: post #4

ox-rss.el - What a surprise! Nice.. M-x org-publish-project RET blog RET That plus TRAMP and you've got a full blog generated from org! Now to hack up ox-rss.el and make a ox-feed.el that does atom..

No need for TRAMP. https://github.com/juanre/org-jekyll org is to outliners what emacs is to text editors.

(The author of org-jekyll here). If anyone is going to try it out please note that there's an org-mode-8.0 branch that should work with the new org-mode release. As soon as I can test it with the new version I'll merge into master and will leave the current version as a branch.

Re: Org Mode Release 8.0

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Post by josteink »

I've never heard about org-mode before, but after checking this thread I had to give it a try.

This is exactly what I've been looking for for years. Fantastic stuff.

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