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Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

#101
post #79

An MIT police officer was killed. A university police officer has died after being shot on the Massachusetts Institute of Technology campus in Cambridge late Thursday, according to state police. http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/cambridge-gunshots/index.ht...

It may or may not be connected, but police in Boston have surrounded two men who are exchanging automatic gunfire them and have thrown grenades, another officer down. The grenades have been mentioned repeatedly, it's not 'I think I heard.'

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/6254/web via Reddit.

:-/

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

#102

On the police scanner, I'm hearing shots fired, grenades, and explosives. Wow. This is not going well. EDIT: And officer down. That's been confirmed again. EDIT 2: Two suspects down, one sent to hospital.

"definitely hand grenades and automatic gunfire, and a second officer down".

Holy shit... WTF is going on up there?!?

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

#105
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well if you truly meant one life saved fair enough. So you'd have to deducted the people killed in making sites like these first. So a web site is possibly $40,000. A humans life in the US is probably worth around $2,000,000. So it might cost one 50th of a humans life to create a site like this. I'd guess not, but the figures are complicated, the site is used for other things for starters. I'd suspect a suicide help…

Are you kidding us? You cannot compare 'human lives' by comparing dollars. And surely, the site does not "cost" one 50th of "a" human life.

If you can save 1 life by spending $2.5M and instead you build 50 websites for $50k then it is reasonable to say that the site cost 1/50th of a human life.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

#107
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Human lives are valued at between $6 and $8 million in the US. This is not what can be produced in the average human life, which is probably more like $1 million as I estimated recently here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5543848 . Instead, it's how much it costs to save a human life on the margin, which is the applicable number here. 2. My impression from previous things I've read is that suicide lines are…

The figure I've seen is $2-4mm (based on payouts from life insurance by the government, etc.), but this was a few years ago, so maybe inflation. Obviously there are huge differences between humans.

Life insurance payouts are actually an even worse measure of value here. Life insurance payouts should be set by the liabilities left over when someone dies (i.e. children that still need to be raised). A person with no dependents doesn't need life insurance (except for funeral expenses), but that doesn't mean orders of magnitude less should be spent to save their life.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

#108

Boston is not having a good week.

FWIW there have been other shootings in Boston since the marathon. They've just been in places like Dudley Square that the national media don't care about. At least five people were shot in Boston on Wednesday night. http://www.universalhub.com/crime/20130417-night-bloodshed-t...

There is something a bit perverse about the disparity in the media attention given to violence that occurs north of the Mass Pike versus south of the Pike.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

#109

"Second officer down, hand grenades and automatic gunfire." In Watertown, Spruce and Lincoln. http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/6254/web

Similar information available at the Tech twitter stream: https://twitter.com/thetech

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

#110

"Second officer down, hand grenades and automatic gunfire." In Watertown, Spruce and Lincoln. http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/6254/web

Something big definitely just happened. I have never seen so many police cars drive so fast in the same direction. They were all heading north on Mass Ave from me, which is consistent with that location.
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