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Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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You're well off. Here in Ontario, I pay ~$75 a month (after taxes & extra fees) for 25mbit. I would kill for $60 40mbit service.

Why does Canada have such terrible internet? Is it a regulation thing, competition thing, or what? Why do you guys have such extreme data caps?

Oligopoly (or duopoly in most cases) with regulatory capture.

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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The NSA is cracking your SSL encrypted Facebook session so they can read about what your friends had for breakfast. Right.

Oh yes, precisely my point rolls eyes . Since you seem to be aware of the NSA's intentions, aside from your sarcasm, perhaps you could explain the purpose of this data center: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/ Just because you're not paying attention doesn't mean shady things aren't happening.

Just because the NSA is building a datacenter doesn't mean shady things are happening.

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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I don't know how you can jump to that conclusion. Provo is one of the few municipalities with a fiber network already in place. Combined with Provo wanting to get out of the fiber business itself makes Provo uniquely suited for Google Fiber. Google probably didn't consider the fact that the NSA building was 20 miles away at all when making this decision because it has very little to do with their deployment. The NSA…

I'm not saying it has anything to do with directly tapping wires. I'm just saying that the DHS has an interest in building up infrastructure in this particular place. I didn't even know Google was interested in buying fiber deployments and redoing them. I thought they were trying to build them from scratch.

First, you imply that underlying intention behind the Fiber deployment in Provo is to make surveillance a piece of cake by practically serving up data on a platter. You admit no other possibility, since this "only helps support" your thesis.

Then someone calls you on it, and you back off and say you weren't implying anything, just that [the NSA] has an interest in building up infrastructure there.

Did you even consider the possibility that both parties might be coincidentally interested in Provo for entirely different reasons?

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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I think one of the things I'm most excited for is canceling my absurd Comcast agreement.

About a month ago Comcast doubled the speed of my connection for free (50/10 -> 105/20). I was delighted as I assumed it meant that a competitor was rolling out fiber in the area or something, and I was very disappointed when an hour scouring the internet for announcements revealed nothing. Somehow I don't think that was the intended reaction. Then again, Comcast tries to get me to "upgrade" to packages costing half…

Wait for the other shoe to drop.

The pattern is raise the speed, then wait 60-90 days and raise all the prices.

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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Can someone explain the impact of widely-distributed fiber on DDOS attacks? As I understand it, if 1-2 of these nodes get compromised, then add in the 10-100x magnification via DNS, you're looking at 10-100gigabits of bandwidth off only two nodes? Compared to the recently published high of 300, this seems disproportionally high.

I'm curious what the size of the upstream pipe is? Is it 1G up/down? Even without DNS amplification, it only takes infecting a couple hundred machines on fiber to have a massive botnet. Hopefully ISPs will better handle DDoS attacks, because likely a few host machines could take down many sites.

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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I think one of the things I'm most excited for is canceling my absurd Comcast agreement.

About a month ago Comcast doubled the speed of my connection for free (50/10 -> 105/20). I was delighted as I assumed it meant that a competitor was rolling out fiber in the area or something, and I was very disappointed when an hour scouring the internet for announcements revealed nothing. Somehow I don't think that was the intended reaction. Then again, Comcast tries to get me to "upgrade" to packages costing half…

I totally agree. Comcast is not the worst. My parents happen to live in an area serviced by a ma and pop cable company (Service Electric Cablevision). 20/2 internet with a 200GB cap for $51 a month. Comcast, which is available to the community less than five miles away, crushes this. This is only 45 minutes from Philadelphia!

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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Great skiing a few miles away and the world's fastest internet? Sounds like most of what I need to be happy. I wish I could move there.

It's easy to do. There are a lot of jobs in the area. I'm getting contacted multiple times per week by recruiters.
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