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Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

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Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

#11
I wonder about the relevance of the recent Supreme Court decision that stopped publishers from trying to limit the resale of imported textbooks:

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/03/20/supreme-court-...

But maybe someone with a better understanding of the law could help clarify the connection - if any?

Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

#12
I sincerely doubt Google will care if it's sold. They stated that you couldn't sell Google Wave / Voice / Gmail invites, yet they were all over eBay.

"Whether or not users will continue to be allowed to sell invites is unclear though, as Google Wave's terms say that users are prohibited from "Sell, trade, resell or otherwise exploit the Service for any unauthorized commercial purpose," though a number of Google Voice invites can also be found on the auction service."

http://mashable.com/2009/09/30/google-wave-invite/

Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

#13
post #7

If you buy a thing, do they have the right to do this? Is there a difference between "purchasing a physical item" and "entering a contract where someone supplies you a physical item on specific terms"? Surely there are consumer rights that protect us from this insane greedy abhorrent shit? What fucking right do companies have over your property? Surely even free-market capitalists should be recoiling in horror over t…

There are certain legal differences between 'selling a product' and 'distributing testing hardware'. It's not clear to me that classifying the Explorer Edition as the latter would hold up in court because of the method of distribution, but that seems to be the theory that Google is working under. And it's perfectly possible that it would hold up.

If it doesn't hold up, it has no legal force. Though they can still close your account and make you take them to court over the software side of things.

Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

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post #7

If you buy a thing, do they have the right to do this? Is there a difference between "purchasing a physical item" and "entering a contract where someone supplies you a physical item on specific terms"? Surely there are consumer rights that protect us from this insane greedy abhorrent shit? What fucking right do companies have over your property? Surely even free-market capitalists should be recoiling in horror over t…

Consumer rights also include not buying this POS and making a huge deal about it. If Google really wants to transform this industry, then they can buck up and not try to strong arm people into how they can use something they pay a lot of money for. Also, if this is tied to your email address, people will simply create a dummy email, with fake information. Then when the time comes, they can just transfer the account a…

A fake identity is less likely to have passed Google's selection process, and may be be difficult to verify when they go to pick up the device in person.

Also, the terms specify that Google is allowed to deactivate the device if they find you've given it to someone else.

Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

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post #5
post #4

If you read the terms @ http://www.google.com/glass/terms/ Specifically the 'Device Specific Addendum' at the bottom you can see that this restriction only applies to the Explorer Edition. I believe this article may be intentionally omitting this detail to create drama.

If you read the terms, in the non-Device Specific Addendum: > You may not commercially resell any Device, but you may give the Device as a gift, unless otherwise set forth in the Device Specific Addendum. So, nope.

> May not commercially resell

Sounds like you can still give / gift / sell / otherwise transfer a glass unit to another individual privately. This all sounds completely normal.

Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

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post #11

I wonder about the relevance of the recent Supreme Court decision that stopped publishers from trying to limit the resale of imported textbooks: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/03/20/supreme-court-... But maybe someone with a better understanding of the law could help clarify the connection - if any?

With Google Glass you're signing a contract agreeing to specific terms. But when you buy a book, you haven't signed away any of your rights.

Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

#17
post #7

If you buy a thing, do they have the right to do this? Is there a difference between "purchasing a physical item" and "entering a contract where someone supplies you a physical item on specific terms"? Surely there are consumer rights that protect us from this insane greedy abhorrent shit? What fucking right do companies have over your property? Surely even free-market capitalists should be recoiling in horror over t…

This is not the retail version.

This is a limited run that is meant to be tested by a small number of people.

Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

#18
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumer rights also include not buying this POS and making a huge deal about it. If Google really wants to transform this industry, then they can buck up and not try to strong arm people into how they can use something they pay a lot of money for. Also, if this is tied to your email address, people will simply create a dummy email, with fake information. Then when the time comes, they can just transfer the account a…

A fake identity is less likely to have passed Google's selection process, and may be be difficult to verify when they go to pick up the device in person. Also, the terms specify that Google is allowed to deactivate the device if they find you've given it to someone else.

Google's increasingly strident insistence that every interaction I have with their services is tied irrevocably to my real name is souring what is otherwise a very happy relationship. I love Android, Chrome, Gmail, Translate, and Search but I don't like having my real name via Google+ twisted up in my use of these services.

Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

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post #17
post #7

If you buy a thing, do they have the right to do this? Is there a difference between "purchasing a physical item" and "entering a contract where someone supplies you a physical item on specific terms"? Surely there are consumer rights that protect us from this insane greedy abhorrent shit? What fucking right do companies have over your property? Surely even free-market capitalists should be recoiling in horror over t…

This is not the retail version. This is a limited run that is meant to be tested by a small number of people.

And is remarkably similar to the CR-48, which had the same "do not loan, do not sell" provision.

I wouldn't pay $1,500 for the test hardware with this provision, but I'm going to withhold my hypothetical anger until Google does this with the consumer version.

Re: Google Is Forbidding Users From Reselling, Loaning Glass Eyewear

#20
post #4

If you read the terms @ http://www.google.com/glass/terms/ Specifically the 'Device Specific Addendum' at the bottom you can see that this restriction only applies to the Explorer Edition. I believe this article may be intentionally omitting this detail to create drama.

Isn't development hardware is usually licenced as property of the supplier? eg. "A Perth man's house has been raided by police after he allegedly tried to sell a prototype of Microsoft's new Xbox gaming console" http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/perth-gamer-caught-in-c...
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