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Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was largely due to their acquisition of Omniture.

I didn't realize that, thanks. I figured it was an old-school Utah tech connection.

There are some well known tech companies around here :)

http://www.siliconslopes.com/company/search-companies

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

#52
post #43

I can see how buying fiber networks like this helps their implementation strategy, but Provo where? I've literally never heard of this town. I'm wondering if these Google Fiber experiments wouldn't be more impactful if they weren't in big cities. KC and Austin are good choices with solid tech centers to see innovation from high network speeds, but Provo, Utah? Really?

Utah has a pretty solid economy, and lots of outdoors enthuiasts love it. I don't know much about Provo, but the drawback to me about Utah is that you have to live in a state that is strongly controlled by the LDS, which is great if you are a mainstream Mormon. Not so much if you aren't. My good friend recently left the Salt Lake City area after several years. When his neighbors found out he wasn't Mormon (LDS to be…

I'm not LDS, and generally dislike religion, but I wonder how bad an LDS-controlled area really would be.

I assume it means good disaster/etc. preparation, a relatively strong social safety net for participants (and thus less abject poverty, random crazy people, etc.)

The non-LDS or ex-LDS people I know who live in Utah (from Defcon or whatever) seem pretty cohesive as well. Maybe because it's a smaller tech scene than other cities, or because of LDS mainstream culture, or whatever.

I guess my question is how hard is it to be involved in business or other parts of civic life if not LDS but also not openly hostile (I mean, as religions go, I don't personally find it any worse than the others, and I'm fine with respecting participants, if not the religion itself, by not attacking it, and accommodating their beliefs). Could you be a non-LDS company in Provo and still reasonably hire a mix of LDS and non-LDS employees?

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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Today we announced that we hope to purchase iProvo, an existing fiber-optic network owned by the city of Provo. As a part of the acquisition, we would commit to upgrade the network to gigabit technology and finish network construction so that every home along the existing iProvo network would have the opportunity to connect to Google Fiber. Our agreement with Provo isn’t approved yet—it’s pending a vote by the City C…

I was at BYU when iProvo was launched. I believe it was offering 10mbps up/down at the time, which was 10x faster than the DSL I had. Unfortunately, I was in an apartment building and they couldn't install the service without permission from the building owner. Also, the Salt Lake City corridor was involved in building a fiber network around the same time, I believe called "Utopia".

iProvo was 15Mb symmetric when it launched. I had it as soon as it was available on my street.

Sadly, Utopia is a financial mess (even more than iProvo became).

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

#54

Holy cow that's great! I sure hope that means they can easily expand to Salt Lake City (about 50 miles North of there—and where I am) after building the infrastructure there. There is already a fiber ISP in the area called Utopia who are in cities near here, but have been disallowed into the bigger cities (Provo and Salt Lake) apparently due to lobbying by the Qwest / CenturyLink and Comcast ISPs. I wonder if this an…

"Holy Cow" - confirmed, we have a Utahn here.

Ha ha... I'm not your typical "Oh my heck" Utahn though—I do drop the hard swears when appropriate, just not online.

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

#55

Good god I hope these announcements light a fire under the butts of the other US providers.

I think one of the things I'm most excited for is canceling my absurd Comcast agreement.

Yep. I pay 60 bucks a month for 40 Mbps, and Google offers 1 Gbps for 70 bucks a month. I pay almost the same price for 4% the speed (not to mention horrible customer service).

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

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post #51
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't realize that, thanks. I figured it was an old-school Utah tech connection.

There are some well known tech companies around here :) http://www.siliconslopes.com/company/search-companies

Sure. I was more referring to the cool graphics work being done at the University of Utah (Adobe, Evans & Sutherland, &c.)

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

#57
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was at BYU when iProvo was launched. I believe it was offering 10mbps up/down at the time, which was 10x faster than the DSL I had. Unfortunately, I was in an apartment building and they couldn't install the service without permission from the building owner. Also, the Salt Lake City corridor was involved in building a fiber network around the same time, I believe called "Utopia".

iProvo was 15Mb symmetric when it launched. I had it as soon as it was available on my street. Sadly, Utopia is a financial mess (even more than iProvo became).

I had waited forever for them to open up my 'region' and I was pretty annoyed when I found out they couldn't install it in the building.

Given the pricing and speed, I'm actually surprised that more people didn't sign up for it. Was it just a marketing problem? (I left Provo in 2005)

Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

#59
post #43

I can see how buying fiber networks like this helps their implementation strategy, but Provo where? I've literally never heard of this town. I'm wondering if these Google Fiber experiments wouldn't be more impactful if they weren't in big cities. KC and Austin are good choices with solid tech centers to see innovation from high network speeds, but Provo, Utah? Really?

Utah has a pretty solid economy, and lots of outdoors enthuiasts love it. I don't know much about Provo, but the drawback to me about Utah is that you have to live in a state that is strongly controlled by the LDS, which is great if you are a mainstream Mormon. Not so much if you aren't. My good friend recently left the Salt Lake City area after several years. When his neighbors found out he wasn't Mormon (LDS to be…

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Re: Google Fiber announced for Provo, Utah

#60
post #46

Can someone explain the impact of widely-distributed fiber on DDOS attacks? As I understand it, if 1-2 of these nodes get compromised, then add in the 10-100x magnification via DNS, you're looking at 10-100gigabits of bandwidth off only two nodes? Compared to the recently published high of 300, this seems disproportionally high.

Let's get providers to stop packets from leaving their network when the IP source doesn't match any on their network.

Bye bye DNS amplification.

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