The case is clearly without merit. They almost certainly sued her hoping that she doesn't have the resources to respond to it, which would result in a default judgment against her. If she is able to get an attorney, she will wind up being awarded her legal expenses and potentially other damages since the case was pretty clearly filed in bad faith. The choice to include eBay as a defendant in the suit, however, is cle…
You are confused. Most likely, EBay will just file a motion to get themselves dismissed from the lawsuit.
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are confused. Most likely, EBay will just file a motion to get themselves dismissed from the lawsuit.
eBay could file a Motion to Dismiss like you suggest, but they actually have a dog in this fight - because if sellers suing buyers over feedback becomes common practice that could have a chilling effect on eBay transactions. Without seeing the pleading I am assuming this is only a libel claim, eBay may be better off filing a Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings and get the case dismissed as to both parties and not ju…
But eBay has a near 0% chance of losing here, the safe harbor is very clear. Given how little eBay tries to protect anyone but eBay already, I can't see why they would ever stay in this voluntarily.
Re: Buyer sued for posting factual negative review on eBay
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are confused. Most likely, EBay will just file a motion to get themselves dismissed from the lawsuit.
I am not sure how would interpret my comment as being rooted in confusion. If the claims were legitimate, eBay would be an appropriate defendant since they are publishing the defamatory content. Moreover, if they somehow lost such a case, it would open the floodgates for anyone that has ever received negative feedback to sue them. Thus, eBay will likely try to make this publicly painful for this plaintiff to serve as…
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right. This was an intentional attempt to cheat the system that the seller fails at, repeatedly. They attempted to screw the USPS and the customer got the bad end of their incompetence.
>This was an intentional attempt to cheat the system You don't know that. Say the seller has a faulty scale and does large numbers of transactions at once. 100 packages go out, and 100 postage due complaints come in. Oops. Clearly the seller is a scumbag.
In their defense, at least they offered to refund the extra shipping cost, but relying on not being caught to save a small amount of money is not worth it in the long run.
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Frivolous like posting a 1 star rating because the seller required you to pay $1.44 in shipping to complete the transaction? I'm not sure it's the lawsuit that's frivolous.
I'm fairly certain yours is not an objective opinion.
Then again, I never made a dime at Amazon, only just lost money and collected positive ratings...
EDIT: I am being downvoted up the thread for taking a position that is not popular. I agree with Med Express that Ebay is culpable for this, as much as this must put me in the wrong legally. Where are the metamoderators?
A 1-star review is the lowest rating that you can give. The seller took the item to the post office and mailed it, postage paid. For some reason it arrived with postage due. Now Med Express will probably be required to keep a reserve on their Ebay account for the next 6 months.
Maybe it gained weight in the mail?
Maybe buyers should post reviews that are fair and balanced. Was the item as described? Received on time? Damaged in transit? Did you communicate your issues to the seller, did they make an attempt to remunerate your concerns?
If the pope hat article is remotely accurate, I would not have given this company a 1-star review. They did everything they could.
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#97It looks like Med Express didn't have the opportunity to fix their mistake before Nicholls started posting negative reviews. I don't understand why everyone is hating on Med Express. Imagine a similar hypothetical: If I made a mistake and offered immediately to correct it but instead was blasted via social media before I had the chance to correct things how would I feel? I'd be pretty upset.
This is what the system is for, actors that are personally unknown to each other, not a part of the same small scale geographic community, seeking a resolution to a perceived wrong.
Who on HN thinks Med Express should have been compassionate and understanding of Nicholls response without regard for the fact that repuation is critical to the survial of Med Express on eBay?
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The notion that negative feedback ought somehow only be posted in event of egregious misdescription is a bizarre, Ebay-centric one. It was a bad customer experience - of course her response is negative! eBay have designed it this way, but many users probably aren't aware of the consequences of leaving feedback. You'd write a complaint card in a hotel with nary a second thought and no ill consequences. To be sued for…
>The notion that negative feedback ought somehow only be posted in event of egregious misdescription is a bizarre, Ebay-centric one. When you keep in mind the effect bad feedback has on a seller, you really should stay your hand unless you feel they were really out to screw you (or you're just plain vindictive). It's a buck in shipping. I'd pay it, blast them an email asking WTF, maybe leave a neutral at worst. Bad f…
As someone who has never used ebay, this way of thinking sounds ridiculous. I can't imagine that this is what the average persons thinks negative feedback means (it means "my experience was less than satisfactory" pretty much everywhere else) and this sounds like an enormous problem with ebay.
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The seller made sure that there would be no winners in this situation when they sent the item with insufficient postage. If that doesn't happen, the rest of this likely does not happen. "Negging someone on eBay for a buck in shipping is a pretty crappy thing to do" That's just not true - that may be your opinion but that's the opinion of a very small number of people. The majority - an overwhelming majority - believe…
>That's just not true Yes it is. I can forgive someone for being ignorant of the way the eBay feedback system works, but when you push that button, you are not just "notifying other perspective buyers of potential problems". It hasn't been that way for years. Not since eBay removed the ability to leave negative feedback for buyers, anyways. If I were the seller in this case, rather than going to court, and negative f…
I first registered on eBay (only as a buyer) about a decade ago, and I've been an active seller on eBay's properties (DeRemate.com and MercadoLibre.com) for a long time.
Negative feedback used to be very common and appropriate in cases such as this one, sellers on MercadoLibre get negative feedback a lot.
eBay's official guidelines (just checked) for leaving feedback are just:
"Share honest Feedback to help members buy and sell with confidence. Give sellers detailed ratings to let them know where they're doing a great job, and where there's still room for improvement"
and on the link to the help page:
"Before leaving neutral or negative Feedback, contact your trading partner to try to resolve any issues."
http://pages.ebay.com/help/feedback/contextual/feedback-tips...
it doesn't say "leaving negative feedback will destroy the seller" or "Negative feedback should be reserved for very rare situations. Additionally, negative feedback should be left only after you have tried desperately to resolve the situation with the buyer or seller in question. "
which is what one user-created (by a seller) help page says
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Some-Guidelines-To-Follow-For-Leavin...
Maybe eBay should guide users better, or get better grading tools. I haven't left negative feedback in a long time (just checked, the last four years I've only left positives), because my transactions all went smoothly (props to eBay and their sellers).
Edit: the buyer definitely didn't even attempt the first step (contacting the seller). I would have. They acted too fast (maybe in anger or something, they had a bad day, who knows).
Re: Buyer sued for posting factual negative review on eBay
#100"Med Express immediately offered to reimburse Nicholls for the postage due amount. Despite this offer, and before giving Med Express a chance to reimburse her, Nicholls on February 26, 2013..." It looks like Med Express didn't have the opportunity to fix their mistake before Nicholls started posting negative reviews. I don't understand why everyone is hating on Med Express. Imagine a similar hypothetical: If I made a…
The feedback only commented that they had to pay shipping costs and that it wasn't mentioned by the seller up front. What is the problem with truthful statements using a system designed to give feedback?
> If I made a mistake and offered immediately to correct it but instead was blasted via social media before I had the chance to correct things how would I feel? I'd be pretty upset.
And that would give you the right to use any means to get back at the person? This wasn't social media. This was a forum designed for feedback.