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Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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At least I could take nail clippers on an airplane in 1999.

People die and lose their limbs, and your first move is apparently crying about how the government takes away your nail clippers.

Even moreso of a reason to not waste energy and thought on phantom evils. Spending nonstop conscious effort confiscating useless attack vectors leaves you less prepared for actual danger.

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The worst part for me (and I really am feeling bad about this) is that I should be concerned about the victims right now, but I can't stop thinking about what freedoms I'll be losing as a result of this.

Couldn't agree more so. What "precautions" and new reforms are we gonna see in the name of security?

"we gonna see in the name of security"

Watershed events always create these emotional knee jerk reactions. As opposed to "well we can save lives by driving 50 mph instead of 70 mph but since that's legacy we aren't likely to not consider the impact on society as a whole by lowering the speed limit."

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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post #190

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At least I could take nail clippers on an airplane in 1999.

People die and lose their limbs, and your first move is apparently crying about how the government takes away your nail clippers.

100's of people die and lose their limbs in an tragic, yet oddly sensational event, and your first move is to decry a person angry about how the government uses similarly sensational events to systematically impose restrictions of freedom on (more or less) the entire world.

Once bit twice shy. Muzzle your fkng dog.

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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I felt the same way. My first thought was that I was glad there weren't any assault weapons involved, for which I was immediately ashamed. Immediately after that I was disgusted that Bloomberg.com wanted me to watch an ad for a new Mercedes before I could check on the well-being of my fellow humans. I'm not proud of my thoughts, and I'm not proud of the hundred or so sarcastic remarks that I've thought of since I fir…

" Immediately after that I was disgusted that Bloomberg.com wanted me to watch an ad" Are you suggesting that they should have some automatic kill switch implemented in advance which they can hit to show sensitivity? [1] Networks also run commercials to make money it's part of how they can afford to do what they do. Of course I've seen cases where networks don't run commercials on rare occasions. [1] And why do they…

No, I'm not, and obviously they have every right to.

At just seemed crass at the moment. I admit that I was just having an overly emotional response at the time and do not fault them for it whatsoever.

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Random person with mental problems? Like all of the other shootings, stabbings, etc that have occurred in the last 10 years.

No they tend to use guns or knifes (or in one case, bow and arrow) because they want to be up and close with the victims. Bombs fit either muslims or crazy homegrown terroists, but those tend to put their bombs in cars, (and you can't park a car there) so my guess is muslims.

There have only been 3 major terror bombings in US history where cars have been used. One was the original WTC bombing. The other two were OK City and Bath School, back in 1927. There were a couple minor car bombs.

Most other domestic US bombers of all stripes used pipe bombs or suitcase bombs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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post #269

The worst part for me (and I really am feeling bad about this) is that I should be concerned about the victims right now, but I can't stop thinking about what freedoms I'll be losing as a result of this.

I feel like everyone expects a reaction and increased security and such, but sometimes this type of reaction won't be fruitful. What could we learn from this -- check every trash can for a bomb at every big event? There are an unlimited number of places you could hide a bomb. If someone trying to blow people up saw the 'reaction' being checking every trash can, they would just learn not to hide their bomb in a trash…

Is there some "silly knee-jerk" response to every such event? I don't remember the knee-jerk response to the Oklahoma City bombing. Or the Atlanta Olympics bombing. Or the first WTC bombing. Or the attempted 2010 Times Square bombing. The response to Sandy Hook is better described as "belabored" rather than "knee-jerk."

As for 9/11, that involved 3,000 people dead and the collapse of a major American icon. It killed more people than the Pearl Harbor bombing and involved direct costs and losses approaching $100 billion.[1] Jury's still out on whether it was a "silly knee-jerk" response or a reasonable wake-up to the threat of global islamic terrorism.

[1] http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-57292565/cost-of-911-...

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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post #280

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Are you really asking whether we have more freedoms to lose in the same sentence that you mention North Korea? Really?

You seem to be implying that because North Korea is less free than us, we are completely free with nothing to lose. That's pretty faulty logic. Better to be aware of the freedoms we are losing (even though we still have many) than to risk ending up like North Korea.

> You seem to be implying that because North Korea is less free than us, we are completely free with nothing to lose. That's pretty faulty logic. Better to be aware of the freedoms we are losing (even though we still have many) than to risk ending up like North Korea.

Clearly my point completely flew over your head. I was only commenting on how ridiculous it was that tomjen3 claimed that we had already lost all our freedoms in the very same sentence that he mentioned a country that is far more oppressive than our own.

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Drones are flying over Afghanistan and Pakistan right now, atatcking innocent families. A Zionist invasion of Palestine in the 1940s is pushing into Gaza, the West Bank, southwest Syria, and innocent Palestinians are being killed daily - with US backing. The US is doing this all over the world, or enabling it. It's a laugh to see the people who invaded Iraq and tortured prisoners in Abu Ghraib getting on their high h…

First of all I am a Canadian, living in Canada and have no association with the actions of the US Government. Secondly I do not condone killing of innocent people in any situation, and just because there are other instances of this happening in the world doesn't minimize the fact that this attack is wrong. I am expressing my support to the victims of this tragedy and my disgust over an attack which was clearly ment t…

Well are you able to express the same sympathy and empathy for the people (twice as many) killed with handguns yesterday? and the day before? and the week before? and every day of every week for the entire year before?

are you able to express the same sympathy for the the 4 people killed in a drone attack yesterday in Pakistan?

are you able to express the same sympathy for the innocent people the U.S. has locked down in Guantanamo bay?

are you able to express the same sympathy for children killed by the DEA?

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