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Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Post by cema »

mindcrime wrote: post #180
joetek wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you know someone who was running the marathon and haven’t heard from them, you can see if they logged times here: http://raceday.baa.org/individual.html

Turns out my cousin's wife got injured in training and didn't run today. They were just there to cheer on some friends who were running. Last I heard they were OK, but, as you can guess, the flow of detailed information in and out of Boston is pretty patchy right now.

SMS seems to be working better than mobile voice.

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Post by podperson »

Udo wrote: post #153
pinaceae wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well, this is indeed a tricky subject. 1., we don't know if it is terrorism (well, is a loner like breivik a terrorist or "just" running amok?) 2., it might not be over yet. mumbai took 60hours. 3., lots of people nowadays have someone there , a friend, an aquaintance. maybe just an online friend or simple source of joy but yeah, terror spreads through news.

Used to be that a terrorist was defined as someone who likes to further their agenda by means of spreading terror. Explosions, destruction, loss of life - that's all completely incidental to the actual terror. A person running amok, in contrast, may be a terrorist (and people like Breivik certainly fit the bill in some aspects) but their main goal is committing mass murder, usually culminating in suicide. A convincin…

I don't think anything much has changed.

It's interesting to look at Joseph Conrad's "The Secret Agent" -- published in 1907 -- which is based on a true story (of an anarchist attack on the Greenwich Observatory in 1894). All the elements of modern "terrorism" are there back then: a half-wit dupe bomber, nutjobs with a crazy ideology (anarchism in this case), and national actors manipulating them from behind the scenes.

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Post by narrator »

noonespecial wrote: post #138

The worst part for me (and I really am feeling bad about this) is that I should be concerned about the victims right now, but I can't stop thinking about what freedoms I'll be losing as a result of this.

The first thought on my mind was what mysterious 1000 page bill is going to show up and get rushed through congress because of all this?

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Post by jQueryIsAwesome »

pekk wrote: post #207
jQueryIsAwesome wrote: post #142

Well, TSA will start checking marathonists anytime soon. Ban me or whatever you need to do but the reality is that one bomb and Americans cry, while at the same time incentivate thousands of bombs and deads in Mexico for their useless "war on drugs" and also creating pointless wars around the world (eg. Iraq)

You are making political excuses for murder.

Murder is political when americans do it?

And I'm not making excuses, all murders are inexcusable including american ones.

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Post by smrtinsert »

pekk wrote: post #168
noonespecial wrote: post #138

The worst part for me (and I really am feeling bad about this) is that I should be concerned about the victims right now, but I can't stop thinking about what freedoms I'll be losing as a result of this.

If you are feeling bad, why are you saying it? This feels like you are standing on a soapbox and it's hard to think you are actually sorry for it when you are doing it intentionally.

because he desperately needs attention and right now boston has it.

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Post by UnoriginalGuy »

mrtron wrote: post #218
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still can today. That is a myth. http://www.seatguru.com/articles/tsa_prohibited_items.php

I have had nail clippers removed from my bag by the TSA recently.

Here is TSA's own blog saying nail clippers are allowed:

http://blog.tsa.gov/2008/01/lighters-nail-clippers-and-lithi...

http://blog.tsa.gov/2009/05/tsa-urban-legends-nail-clippers....

http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/12/tsa-response-to-claim-that-nail....

http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/12/updated-tsa-response-to-claim-th...

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Post by mbesto »

noonespecial wrote: post #138

The worst part for me (and I really am feeling bad about this) is that I should be concerned about the victims right now, but I can't stop thinking about what freedoms I'll be losing as a result of this.

No worries, you're simply thinking pragmatically, when everyone else is emotional. The killings are nothing but a mode of transport for destruction of freedom.

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Post by mathattack »

lazugod wrote: post #232
mathattack wrote: post #213

They police are saying, "Don't use your cellphones, as they can set off other devices." Is there real science behind this?

Science behind what?

Can random usage of a nearby phone trigger remotely detonated bombs?

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Post by spitx »

Boston police triage numbers:

For families of the victims, primarily:

617-635-4500 (Mayor's Hotline)

If you have any information about the explosions and/or were at the site of explosions:

1-800-494-TIPS

NYPOST reporting that a suspect has been identified and is being held under guard at a hospital:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/authorities_under_susp...

Update:

Steve Silva's Ground Level View Video (Boston.com)

http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_S...

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