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Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

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Re: Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

#21

Does this mean it's time to lift the anti-monopoly restrictions on Microsoft and Windows?

The defendant microsoft still has enough market clout left to scorch the metaphorical earth and poison the well for the rest of the industry. I'm talking about SecureBoot of course.

So the answer to your question is a resounding no.

Re: Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

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This guy has seemingly made a career out of being wrong about Windows.

Here's a quote from one of his other articles, "I can't say that I've looked at Windows 7 nearly as closely as Kennedy has, but I've looked at Windows 7 enough to know that it's no real improvement on Vista."

It's too bad that "journalists" can be consistently wrong with impunity.

That said, based on his track record, Windows will probably have a bright future.

Re: Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

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In a way journalists writing this type of article over and over puts a little fear in my heart. I don't ever intend or want to pass up my PC or laptop in favor of a phone or tablet interface; as a content developer its just not something I could ever see myself wanting to change. Sure, I own a smartphone and tablet but they're recreational at best and often used only for efficiency in my life, never a replacement for…

I think this overlooks one fairly major fact and the reason Microsoft became one of the most valuable companies in the world: businesses have employees. Employees use productivity software. Productivity software cannot run on a tablet in any practical sense. Even if it could, most large companies (which are Dell and Microsoft's bread and butter) lag a good 10 years behind technology trends. This is why most employees are running Windows XP or 7 and the same stodgy Office productivity software they've been using for 20 years. It works and is universally accepted.

If there is ever a drop in demand large enough that would render the desktop computer market small enough to halt production, I would bet that you will find that you no longer use it for productivity either. I'm a developer too and that is not a niche market. It's easy to think of it as such but the reality is that old-fashioned productivity isn't going anywhere. Tablets have replaced non-consumption and at best complement desktop machines.

Re: Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

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A PC isn't a tablet nor is it a phone.

Microsoft should have their Windows people concentrate on the PC. Make it the best desktop device possible.

They need a separate mobile group. Keep Balmer as CEO but when it comes to mobile do the opposite of whatever he says. It worked for George: http://www.tv.com/shows/seinfeld/the-opposite-2326/

Re: Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

#25

The big question is - what else do we want a desktop to do that they can't already do? I struggle to think of anything that Windows could add to its functionality that would make me want a new version.

“I struggle to think of anything that Windows could add to its functionality that would make me want a new version.”

Windows 7 and OS X 10.8 are fine desktop OSes that one can continue to use for years to come. However, I can think of two improvements for future versions:

* Better file systems. Windows was supposed to get WinFS, OS X was destined to adopt ZFS. Unfortunately, neither of those panned out. HDDs are on their way out, we need native support for a file system that is reliable and is optimized for SSD use. Preferably, both Apple and Microsoft use the same open source solution for all their platforms, but that's not likely to happen.

* APIs to aide cooperation between mobile apps and desktop apps and TV screens. Right now, there are few good examples of mobile apps adding to the desktop experience, or the other way around. At the moment, only Adobe Nav[1] and Adobe Color Lava[2] come to mind. This is something Apple en Microsoft need to solve, not make each developer do so for themselves. Look at the brilliant folks at Panic and their Status Board app: they spent months working on a solution to display high quality graphics from an iPad to a TV screen [3]; those things should be much easier.

[1] http://www.photoshop.com/products/mobile/nav

[2] http://www.photoshop.com/products/mobile/colorlava

[3] http://www.panic.com/blog/2013/03/the-lightning-digital-av-a...

Re: Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

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"Windows is done". What a final statement. PC sales may be mostly done. A desktop that was bought 10 years ago can still run fine today - and many still are. We reached a point in computing where upgrading doesn't make that big of a difference. You can use the same machine for a decade or more without problem if you're an end user, especially given so many rich web apps that don't require high processing power.

A decade is a bit much. I'll give you 5 years, but that's about it.

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Re: Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

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post #4

In a way journalists writing this type of article over and over puts a little fear in my heart. I don't ever intend or want to pass up my PC or laptop in favor of a phone or tablet interface; as a content developer its just not something I could ever see myself wanting to change. Sure, I own a smartphone and tablet but they're recreational at best and often used only for efficiency in my life, never a replacement for…

It depends what you mean when you say you want a "PC".

Do you mean something that runs x86 architecture? Something with keyboard/mouse as the primary interface? Something with interchangeable commodity components? Something with lots of local storage?

Re: Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

#28
The huge market may keep Windows in the game longer than anticipated is the often-overlooked monopoly they have with DirectX, and graphic drivers that work (reference to my recent experience using Ubuntu for a while with nVidia hardware)

Re: Stick a fork in it: Windows is done

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In a way journalists writing this type of article over and over puts a little fear in my heart. I don't ever intend or want to pass up my PC or laptop in favor of a phone or tablet interface; as a content developer its just not something I could ever see myself wanting to change. Sure, I own a smartphone and tablet but they're recreational at best and often used only for efficiency in my life, never a replacement for…

Its a bit narrow to think that 90% of the makers are just consumers. The whole kids market has been narrowed down to iPads which is kind of sad because kids can do so much more. (If they were given more input device optins than today for example ). This whole narrow thinking is unfortunately throughout the general populace whose creativity has been inhibited by apple products ( just using their name because they are the ultima e proponents of 2-3 sizes fit all )
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