Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
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Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
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Re: Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
#2What is the need to do this anonymously? It seems like the intent is only to complain and not contribute back to the project itself.
Re: Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
#3What is the need to do this anonymously? It seems like the intent is only to complain and not contribute back to the project itself.
I suppose there are some developers who are not advanced enough to contribute to the project, but smart enough to use a framework? I don't know: Tom Dale did reply to the gist, and mentions there are non-trivial CS problems being solved.
Ember is actively trying to compete with angular (backed by google) and others - and I think the people rooting for ember are just people feeling let down after deciding to move forward on it in production.
edit: Tom's actual quote: "trying to solve are novel computer science problems"
Re: Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
#4What is the need to do this anonymously? It seems like the intent is only to complain and not contribute back to the project itself.
I wonder if this is one of the named heroes in the letter, wishing to maintain his position in the group, however weak.
Re: Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
#5What is the need to do this anonymously? It seems like the intent is only to complain and not contribute back to the project itself.
I suppose there are some developers who are not advanced enough to contribute to the project, but smart enough to use a framework? I don't know: Tom Dale did reply to the gist, and mentions there are non-trivial CS problems being solved. Ember is actively trying to compete with angular (backed by google) and others - and I think the people rooting for ember are just people feeling let down after deciding to move forw…
Contributions are not only in form of code right. The anonymous person can help in documentation, interact with the core devs on problems through back and forth communications etc.
Re: Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
#6It's scary, but even if you release something as open source, for free and free for people to modify as they please, you're still in a weird relationship with the people that use your software. You haven't exactly promised to do anything for them, and the code as-is is in itself a great gift... but on the other hand, there's an implicit acknowledgement that "yes, you can build on this".
(Both the open letter and the response from Tom Dale seem to acknowledge that there's two sides to this issue, which is refreshing. Usually you get these really boorish "dude, it's open source, just fix it yourself will ya" responses.)
It makes me wary of pushing any of my projects. I still open source pretty much everything I do, but usually with a big fat "for your edification, don't expect any support or ongoing development" disclaimer.
(Also see fat's "What Is Open Source & Why Do I Feel So Guilty? at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDb6VBO9os)
Re: Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
#7PG: is it possible to configure HN to show the domain as gist.github.com instead of just github.com?
Re: Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
#8What is the need to do this anonymously? It seems like the intent is only to complain and not contribute back to the project itself.
Problems that are clearly formulated are easier to solve than ones that are opaque.
At the very worst, it lets the devs know where the users want new features. At the very best, it helps crystallize aspects of the problem that make a solution easier to find.
User feedback is always a gift. Even if they are yelling at you, they're giving you valuable information.
Re: Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
#9Why is there drama for such a small community? Angular doesn't seem to suffer from these constant HN threads.
Re: Anonymous Open Letter to the Ember.js Core Team
#10When you choose a framework, surely you have a responsibility to thoroughly review it to ensure it meets your needs? Your needs might include professional support. If none was advertised and you still chose it, why bemoan the fact it's missing?