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Re: 8 days. 8,000 forums

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Post by lnanek2 »

parfe wrote: post #49

Not related to 4chan in any way http://betabeat.com/2012/11/4chan-founder-moot-sends-cease-d... Although my curiosity certainly supports Poole's position. I assumed this was moot monetizing forums.

Ha, yes, I thought it was going to be him from the name as well, until I went to the site and found out otherwise. I suppose moot is a word, though, not just a name. Although the only time I heard it used using the discussion definition instead of the more common one was a Tolkien book or something. Maybe they aren't from the US and people outside the US use it this way.

Re: 8 days. 8,000 forums

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Post by khet »

tipiirai wrote: post #19
nwh wrote: post #17

A free service with no advertising and a very limited business model? I fail to see why anybody would want to build a community on a service that will disappear in a few months.

We're going to have paid features such as single sign on or private posts on top of our core offering. You can read more about our plans here http://moot.it/about/

The parent's argument still holds true.

Just because you "plan" to make money does not mean you will make money.

Re: 8 days. 8,000 forums

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Post by idm »

tipiirai wrote: post #42
DanBC wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a very simple question - have you sorted out the legal issues or not? His lawyers sent you a C&D; you responded to that C&D and now you've launched. Considering he's been known as moot since 2003, and is known by millions of people as moot, and has a strong link to online discussion forums, I'd think he has an excellent case. Since, apart from his name, the primary meaning of moot is "closed to debate" (not "o…

We've sorted it out. We found out that there is no case.

As DanBC pointed out, "moot" means the opposite of "open to debate." Honestly, I think Moot is kindof silly for sending the letter in the first place, but he's totally right that your name (moot.it) will cause confusion. Add me to the list of people who thought "Moot.it" meant "Poole."

If Moot were trademarked by 4chan (now there's a laughable proposition), there really would be a case - and a pretty strong one, at that. As it is, I imagine you're right that Moot has no real case against Moot.it, but it also sounds like the letter made no specific C&D demands.

I imagine your product can rise above this based on its merit, but you gotta acknowledge the subtle trolling inherent in the name. I understand why you can't publicly acknowledge this, but it's there anyway.

Re: 8 days. 8,000 forums

#55

Post by JLehtinen »

vfl0 wrote: post #16

I really like the features offered (especially the realtime updates), and how you can customise it. Would prefer to host it on my own website though.

Moot architecture is a distributed cloud based service - unless someone wants to set up the dozen or so servers it would require for a basic Moot setup, it wouldn't be feasible even if the infrastructure setup was open sourced.

Re: 8 days. 8,000 forums

#56

Post by makeee »

Any plans to allow sites to use their existing authentication/identity system, rather then require users to signup with moot to participate in the forum?

Re: 8 days. 8,000 forums

#57

Post by peteforde »

If I launched a photo sharing site called Laughing Squid, a large percentage of my ideal demographic would hate me.

If I put a lot of work into something, why would I blow my own foot off for cheap publicity?

Re: 8 days. 8,000 forums

#58

Post by JLehtinen »

khet wrote: post #52
tipiirai wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're going to have paid features such as single sign on or private posts on top of our core offering. You can read more about our plans here http://moot.it/about/

The parent's argument still holds true. Just because you "plan" to make money does not mean you will make money.

This is true of any service anywhere, even regardless of whether the company makes money or not. Btw, any ideas of a good replacement for Google Reader?

Re: 8 days. 8,000 forums

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Post by tipiirai »

idm wrote: post #53
tipiirai wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've sorted it out. We found out that there is no case.

As DanBC pointed out, "moot" means the opposite of "open to debate." Honestly, I think Moot is kindof silly for sending the letter in the first place, but he's totally right that your name (moot.it) will cause confusion. Add me to the list of people who thought "Moot.it" meant "Poole." If Moot were trademarked by 4chan (now there's a laughable proposition), there really would be a case - and a pretty strong one, at t…

There is definitely a subtte trolling factor on our name, no reason to hide it. But it does not affect to the fact that moot.it is a damn good name for a product like ours. In case we get popular (which might be the case considering the title of this Hacker News post) this trolling factor will decease.

Speaking strictly about the branding I really think it doesn't matter whether the inherent meaning is closed or open. Product naming is an art form and it doesn't have to be realistic.

I hope we can use Moot successfully on our issue tracker

http://moot.it/issues

So we can "close the debate" on those moots :)

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