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Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Gut reaction: Trojita isn't far off Trojan. I think people will have issues with that.

(Obligatory) Those who make a thing (not to mention give it away for free, in this case) can name it whatever they like. If there are people out there not using the GIMP because of its awesome name, well... That's their loss, but long live self-expression.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Gmail exports labels as IMAP folders, so it should be fine?

Actually this is what creates the mess. If gmail had exported labels as flags an IMAP client should be able to re-implement the gmail folders. EDIT: The mess I refer to is that your emails will be duplicated if they have multiple labels. EDIT2: Hmm, actually I am not sure how good the support for custom IMAP flags is.

(Side note: It's been a few years since I looked through the specs and maybe I missed something)

IMAP flags are sadly severely lacking in what they can represent. The character set isn't even enough for unmodified UTF-7 (Punycode could work, but only for one-word tags) which renders them useless for user-chosen labels so few mail clients actually bother supporting them in that way. Thunderbird uses \label1 through \label5 but the names that are displayed in the UI are stored on each computer separately so you'd have to set up the labels you use on each machine (which kinda defies the purpose of storing that on the server). And short of using a »label configuration mail« on the server I don't see an easy way of supporting them completely server-side.

I'd love to completely forego folders and use tags/labels/flags/whatever they're called exclusively but last I looked IMAP wasn't able to support that.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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I don't see GPG/PGP integration. I have been looking for a lightweight, multi-platform offline capable IMAP client with good GPG/PGP encryption for awhile now, and nothing seems to quite fit the bill.

I'm also looking for something similar for OSX/Linux. I'd love to move my "life" away from services like gmail (not that I have anything against it, just don't like having all my data that far away from me).

Have you tried Claws mail? :http://www.claws-mail.org/ It has support for gpg (inline and mime) and is multiplatform, maybe you have done and you don't like it

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Off topic: Can anyone recommend a good command-line mail client. I'm used mutt quite a bit. Wondering if there are any more out there that are at least as good as mutt.

I always go back to mutt. It does one thing, read email, and it does it well.

The key is to set it up appropriately. Don't use mutt for downloading your email, especially if you wanna deal with IMAP. Use isync (mbsync) for that purpose (I used to use offlineimap, but it's buggy and not very fast).

There's also notmuch, which I use for indexing my email. It also contains a pretty good email reader.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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About labels, I believe they are sort of in the IMAP spec as keywords or something like that, so if Gmail is being nice, they should work. About conversations, I read that Gmail does some client-side sorcery with In-Reply-To headers for that, so if this client does the same, it should work.

Gmail exports labels as IMAP folders, so it should be fine?

You can determine labels, it's just more work. I wrote a script a while back that used IMAP to just generate a list of message-ids and the labels associated with each one. I iterated over all messages in all folders to build the associations. It might be possible to query for a single message-id in all folders, to get a list of labels to, but you would need to know the message-id ahead of time.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Off topic: Can anyone recommend a good command-line mail client. I'm used mutt quite a bit. Wondering if there are any more out there that are at least as good as mutt.

I always go back to mutt. It does one thing, read email, and it does it well. The key is to set it up appropriately. Don't use mutt for downloading your email, especially if you wanna deal with IMAP. Use isync (mbsync) for that purpose (I used to use offlineimap, but it's buggy and not very fast). There's also notmuch, which I use for indexing my email. It also contains a pretty good email reader.

  | I used to use offlineimap, but it's buggy
My favourite bug was when it was blocking on wanting a password, but wasn't accepting input. I had to kill it externally because it wasn't accepting C-\ or C-c.
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