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Apache Rewrites History: Why is it Named “Apache”?

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Re: Apache Rewrites History: Why is it Named “Apache”?

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If you didn't know, long ago in the 90's there was a kerfuffle between the Apache Nation (Native Americans) and the Apache software project over the ownership of the "apache.org" domain name. Needless to say, the project won and retained the domain. If the software project actually had any respect for the Native American Apache tribe, then they would have given the domain name to the tribe/nation.

What practical purpose would that serve, other than breaking a bunch of links?

It's a fair question. In 1995/96 when the kerfuffle went down, the number links on web were nothing by today's standard. Heck, I remember reading discussion surrounding the disagreement on usenet, and at the time, the web was still fairly new.

The main issue I wanted to point out is how their revisionist history is entirely disingenuous, and their refusal to give the domain to the Apache Nation pretty much proves the level of respect they really have for the Native American tribe.

As a person with the first name of "John" I'm certainly aware of how easy it is for a single name to be shared, but sadly, domain names don't work that way.

Oddly enough, it seems someone has edited wikipedia to match the revisionist history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server

Re: Apache Rewrites History: Why is it Named “Apache”?

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http://www.apacheweek.com/issues/96-04-04

> If you don't know where Apache came from, here's a short history lesson. In late 1994 and early 1995, the NCSA server was stuck at version 1.3. Patches being submitted for the NCSA server didn't get incorporated. So a group of people who wanted to keep developing the server got together, and using the public domain code from NCSA 1.3 developed their own server. There was also some doubt over what the license would be for the next version of NCSA. Because the new server developed from a need to integrate outstanding patches, it became known as "a patchy" server.

http://web.archive.org/web/19961028122409/www.apache.org/doc...

> Why the name "Apache" ?

> A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

So there you go. You'd think a bunch of people who make web servers would understand the archival properties of the web.

Re: Apache Rewrites History: Why is it Named “Apache”?

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Xah Lee is a long-time troll. However, this post is true. See references: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=466302 * http://xahlee.info/Netiquette_dir/troll.html (from his own site) * http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/python/489908?do=post_view_threaded#489908 * https://github.com/hober/troll-filters

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Re: Apache Rewrites History: Why is it Named “Apache”?

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post #2

If you didn't know, long ago in the 90's there was a kerfuffle between the Apache Nation (Native Americans) and the Apache software project over the ownership of the "apache.org" domain name. Needless to say, the project won and retained the domain. If the software project actually had any respect for the Native American Apache tribe, then they would have given the domain name to the tribe/nation.

Gosh. Yet another insult in a long history of insults.

Re: Apache Rewrites History: Why is it Named “Apache”?

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post #2

If you didn't know, long ago in the 90's there was a kerfuffle between the Apache Nation (Native Americans) and the Apache software project over the ownership of the "apache.org" domain name. Needless to say, the project won and retained the domain. If the software project actually had any respect for the Native American Apache tribe, then they would have given the domain name to the tribe/nation.

But they owned it first.

Or are you trying to steal JCR.org ?

Re: Apache Rewrites History: Why is it Named “Apache”?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What practical purpose would that serve, other than breaking a bunch of links?

It's a fair question. In 1995/96 when the kerfuffle went down, the number links on web were nothing by today's standard. Heck, I remember reading discussion surrounding the disagreement on usenet, and at the time, the web was still fairly new. The main issue I wanted to point out is how their revisionist history is entirely disingenuous, and their refusal to give the domain to the Apache Nation pretty much proves the…

It states clearly right here what it stood for: http://web.archive.org/web/19970415054031/www.apache.org/inf...

Why is it called Apache?

The Apache group was formed around a number of people who provided patch files that had been written for NCSA httpd 1.3. The result after combining them was A PAtCHy server.

Give up trying your hardest to be offended.

Re: Apache Rewrites History: Why is it Named “Apache”?

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Xah Lee is a long-time troll. However, this post is true. See references: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=466302 * http://xahlee.info/Netiquette_dir/troll.html (from his own site) * http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/python/489908?do=post_view_threaded#489908 * https://github.com/hober/troll-filters

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