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Show HN: TL;DRizer - an algorithmic summarizer webapp/api in java (weekend hack)

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Re: Show HN: TL;DRizer - an algorithmic summarizer webapp/api in java (weekend hack)

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Post by drakaal »

MojoJolo wrote: post #47
Charlesmigli wrote: post #38

As as cofounder of http://tldr.io this confirms our vision that for now (and for many years) only people can perform such a hard task like summarizing.

I agree with "for now" but not "for many years". Right now, most or all automatic summarizers are doing extraction. Which is just lifting sentences from the original article itself. It is different from the human perception of summary, which is abstraction. That uses the most important parts of the article and paraphrase it for easy reading. Right now, abstraction or paraphrasing is hard to do by a computer. But I th…

Changing the sentences adds bias. Maintaining the author's intent is important.

Generating news highlights from lots of sources might be cool as computer generated content. But rewriting an author's story in new words is not adding value it is just ripping them off.

Re: Show HN: TL;DRizer - an algorithmic summarizer webapp/api in java (weekend hack)

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Post by cgonzalez »

drakaal wrote: post #57
logn wrote: post #2

Generated 5 Sentence Summary for http://www.businessinsider.com/why-marissa-mayer-bought-a-30... Back in March, Yahoo bought a startup called Summly for $30 million. Before Yahoo shut it down, Summly was a news aggregation app for smartphones. According to Summly's own Web site, the technology behind the app was "built" by an organization called "SRI International," not by the startup's employees. And indeed, inside…

http://TLDRstuff.com comes back with: Why Marissa Mayer Bought A $30M Startup - Business Insider: The deal got a lot of attention because Summly's CEO is 17-year-old Nick D'Aloisio. Acquiring Summly seems to have been an almost incidental side effect of a deal Yahoo made with SRI for a piece of "summarization technology." Until Yahoo bought it, SRI International held equity in Summly. The job of implementing this tec…

Agreed!

Re: Show HN: TL;DRizer - an algorithmic summarizer webapp/api in java (weekend hack)

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Post by micheleg »

Sorta cool. The Yahoo purchase of Summly is not much more than a PR play. The technology wasn't/isn't there. And, while this "weekend hack" is neat, the quality of summaries isn't close to that of the TLDR plug-in (http://www.tldrstuff.com/#desktop) Not only does the Stremor plug-in get "what is important with the article" the plug-in is simply on all of my browsers and works FAST. Fun discussion though, and props to little Nick.

Re: Show HN: TL;DRizer - an algorithmic summarizer webapp/api in java (weekend hack)

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Post by MojoJolo »

drakaal wrote: post #61
MojoJolo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with "for now" but not "for many years". Right now, most or all automatic summarizers are doing extraction. Which is just lifting sentences from the original article itself. It is different from the human perception of summary, which is abstraction. That uses the most important parts of the article and paraphrase it for easy reading. Right now, abstraction or paraphrasing is hard to do by a computer. But I th…

Changing the sentences adds bias. Maintaining the author's intent is important. Generating news highlights from lots of sources might be cool as computer generated content. But rewriting an author's story in new words is not adding value it is just ripping them off.

Thanks. I got pretty good insights. Bias doesn't come into my mind. So you're saying multi-document "summarization" maybe the next step of consumer automatic summarization? There are many research about multi-document summarization, and will look into it.

Re: Show HN: TL;DRizer - an algorithmic summarizer webapp/api in java (weekend hack)

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Post by jbrooksuk »

mohaps wrote: post #23
jbrooksuk wrote: post #20

Very cool! I can't wait for it to be open sourced.

trying to figure out (short of creating a new repo from current code) how to mirror the heroku git repo for this on github

Can't you add another remote for it? One for GitHub and one for Heroku, then just push to both when you want to update.

Re: Show HN: TL;DRizer - an algorithmic summarizer webapp/api in java (weekend hack)

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Post by mohaps »

jbrooksuk wrote: post #66
mohaps wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

trying to figure out (short of creating a new repo from current code) how to mirror the heroku git repo for this on github

Can't you add another remote for it? One for GitHub and one for Heroku, then just push to both when you want to update.

yeah, that's what I ended up doing. :) first time using git. These old bones have been ground up bad by CVS/Subversion :P Here's the announcement: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5535827
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