Google AppEngine Java Support Launches • Hacker News Board

Re: Google AppEngine Java Support Launches

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Post by tll » Wed, Apr 08, 2009, 1:22 PM UTC

danw wrote: post #26

axod wrote: post #22

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Try writing a high throughput webapp in ruby or php, then come back. Java is orders of magnitude easier to scale.

Languages don't scale.

Fortunately Java is not a language but a runtime + library + language. And it scales great :-)

Re: Google AppEngine Java Support Launches

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Post by icey » Wed, Apr 08, 2009, 1:23 PM UTC

jonursenbach wrote: post #19

pufuwozu wrote: post #7

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I wonder if it will run all Java bytecode. Scala and Clojure would be great. Plus PHP (via Quercus) would convert a lot of developers. Edit: looks like it should! http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html App Engine runs your Java web application using a Java 6 JVM in a safe "sandboxed" environemnt. App Engine invokes your app's servlet classes to handle requests and prepare responses in this environmen…

I'd much rather have native PHP support than have to run PHP through an unnecessary layer of Java. Thanks but no thanks.

I never do this but...

Why was this downmodded so much? I don't get it. Wanting to have native PHP support seems like a perfectly reasonable wish.

[Edit: Now it seems out of context, but the parent was at -2 when I posted this]

Re: Google AppEngine Java Support Launches

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Post by briansmith » Wed, Apr 08, 2009, 2:56 PM UTC

The interesting thing is that this is based on some of the standard Java EE APIs, unlike the Python edition, which was nearly 100% proprietary.

Unfortunately, there's still very poor support for HTTPS. The limited HTTPS support is what keeps me from deploying any applications on it.

Re: Google AppEngine Java Support Launches

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Post by jonursenbach » Wed, Apr 08, 2009, 5:10 PM UTC

felixmar wrote: post #20

jonursenbach wrote: post #19

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I'd much rather have native PHP support than have to run PHP through an unnecessary layer of Java. Thanks but no thanks.

Microsoft's Azure has support for native PHP with FastCGI.

And EC2 has support for everything.

Re: Google AppEngine Java Support Launches

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Post by tlrobinson » Wed, Apr 08, 2009, 7:38 PM UTC

tlrobinson wrote: post #17

pufuwozu wrote: post #7

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I wonder if it will run all Java bytecode. Scala and Clojure would be great. Plus PHP (via Quercus) would convert a lot of developers. Edit: looks like it should! http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html App Engine runs your Java web application using a Java 6 JVM in a safe "sandboxed" environemnt. App Engine invokes your app's servlet classes to handle requests and prepare responses in this environmen…

Don't forget JavaScript via Rhino!

Someone already got Helma running on it: http://helma-ng.appspot.com/