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Why Chemotherapy That Costs $70,000 in the U.S. Costs $2,500 in India

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Re: Why Chemotherapy That Costs $70,000 in the U.S. Costs $2,500 in India

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post #4

This is basically the paradox of US healthcare innovation. Canada can tell its pharmaceutical companies, "yeah, that cool drug you just invented, we're not gonna pay you what you want for that." And what option does the pharmaceutical company have? Convince healthcare providers to charge retail prices to their patients as an out-of-pocket expense, or... reduce prices accordingly. Because healthcare payments are not f…

well that's the biggest load of shit i've ever read

Re: Why Chemotherapy That Costs $70,000 in the U.S. Costs $2,500 in India

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

US firms are investing less in R&D relatively to their rank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceutical_industry#Market_... than their French/UK (publicly-funded healthcare) counterparts. The US are not "subsidizing it for poor countries" more than other rich countries. The truth in the case you're making is not specific to healthcare and is that "research (private and public) of rich countries that can afford it" be…

From that list 48.17% of all health care R&D spend is by US based companies. Sounds like the US is subsidizing the world to me.

keep on believing. you're the defender of freedoms after all

Re: Why Chemotherapy That Costs $70,000 in the U.S. Costs $2,500 in India

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Chemotherapy is a form therapy where the medicine companies heal the the patient off his money and then kill him.

Huh? Do you have an idea of how science and medicine works?

Just wondering what this has to do with Hacker News. But anyway, check out:

http://www.cancer-research-awareness.com/why-chemotherapy-ne...

http://www.smashcancer.com/2010/08/22/cancer-lies-and-the-me...

http://current.com/green/89138817_cancer-is-not-a-disease-ch...

Just a few writings and articles speaking about the lie that is chemotherapy.

I have an idea how medicine works, let me spell it out here for you:

1. Poison the foods (GMO, sugars, fats, overprocessed crap that is the idea of western food)

2. Sell medicine for people who eat this poisoned food

3. Profit!

Now, this is _my_ idea. You are allowed to have your own idea about this.

Re: Why Chemotherapy That Costs $70,000 in the U.S. Costs $2,500 in India

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post #4

This is basically the paradox of US healthcare innovation. Canada can tell its pharmaceutical companies, "yeah, that cool drug you just invented, we're not gonna pay you what you want for that." And what option does the pharmaceutical company have? Convince healthcare providers to charge retail prices to their patients as an out-of-pocket expense, or... reduce prices accordingly. Because healthcare payments are not f…

You say that US healthcare leads the way in innovation but in certain key measures like Infant Mortality and Life Expectancy it's not leading the field at all.

Re: Why Chemotherapy That Costs $70,000 in the U.S. Costs $2,500 in India

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post #4

This is basically the paradox of US healthcare innovation. Canada can tell its pharmaceutical companies, "yeah, that cool drug you just invented, we're not gonna pay you what you want for that." And what option does the pharmaceutical company have? Convince healthcare providers to charge retail prices to their patients as an out-of-pocket expense, or... reduce prices accordingly. Because healthcare payments are not f…

> The US is effectively subsidizing advanced healthcare for every other country in the world. That's a very misinformed statement.

Please provide some data to back that up because it is a common belief that the high cost of producing a new drug is offset by the US consumer.

Re: Why Chemotherapy That Costs $70,000 in the U.S. Costs $2,500 in India

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post #4

This is basically the paradox of US healthcare innovation. Canada can tell its pharmaceutical companies, "yeah, that cool drug you just invented, we're not gonna pay you what you want for that." And what option does the pharmaceutical company have? Convince healthcare providers to charge retail prices to their patients as an out-of-pocket expense, or... reduce prices accordingly. Because healthcare payments are not f…

> The US is effectively subsidizing advanced healthcare for every other country in the world. That's a very misinformed statement.

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Re: Why Chemotherapy That Costs $70,000 in the U.S. Costs $2,500 in India

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US firms are investing less in R&D relatively to their rank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceutical_industry#Market_... than their French/UK (publicly-funded healthcare) counterparts. The US are not "subsidizing it for poor countries" more than other rich countries. The truth in the case you're making is not specific to healthcare and is that "research (private and public) of rich countries that can afford it" be…

From that list 48.17% of all health care R&D spend is by US based companies. Sounds like the US is subsidizing the world to me.

Or that US health research produces far less bang for the buck, because the companies can charge whatever they want, and the suckers (citizens) have to bend over and cough up the money.

Re: Why Chemotherapy That Costs $70,000 in the U.S. Costs $2,500 in India

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From that list 48.17% of all health care R&D spend is by US based companies. Sounds like the US is subsidizing the world to me.

keep on believing. you're the defender of freedoms after all

That's embarrassing. What does your glib, mostly obnoxious comment have to do with anything factual? You hate America so much you can't even give it credit for positive things that are factually accurate?
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