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Re: PC sales plunge, Microsoft and Windows 8 blamed

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There was a time when I would have felt seriously behind the times using my 3.5 year old PC. Maybe I just have different priorities now, but I no longer feel any compulsion to upgrade. I'm not aware of anything that a new PC can do that my current one can't, besides an incremental, barely noticeable speed bump. On a related note, am I right in thinking that we are currently in the longest ever gap between new HD capa…

Same here, I bought mine 3.5 years ago and it still seems perfectly fast.

I did a speed comparison against someone who bought their's recently, and their's was only marginally faster.

Re: PC sales plunge, Microsoft and Windows 8 blamed

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There was a time when I would have felt seriously behind the times using my 3.5 year old PC. Maybe I just have different priorities now, but I no longer feel any compulsion to upgrade. I'm not aware of anything that a new PC can do that my current one can't, besides an incremental, barely noticeable speed bump. On a related note, am I right in thinking that we are currently in the longest ever gap between new HD capa…

As far as I can tell, consumer disk prices for >= 2TB drives are still higher than they were before the 2011 Thailand floods.

Re: PC sales plunge, Microsoft and Windows 8 blamed

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Is this a satire? I find it hard to believe that Microsoft and Windows 8 is to solely blame for any decline in PC sales. Haven't PC sales been declining for some time now? This sounds like a pretty far-fetched claim to make here. Considering here in Australia you can still buy a new PC with Windows 7 installed, I find it hard to believe that consumers are opting not to buy a computer just because of Windows 8 comes p…

I think it's that a lot of people upgrade their OS when they get a new PC. So having a new OS is part of the appeal.

If Windows 8 is seen as worse or no better than Win7 , why bother upgrading?

Re: PC sales plunge, Microsoft and Windows 8 blamed

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There was a time when I would have felt seriously behind the times using my 3.5 year old PC. Maybe I just have different priorities now, but I no longer feel any compulsion to upgrade. I'm not aware of anything that a new PC can do that my current one can't, besides an incremental, barely noticeable speed bump. On a related note, am I right in thinking that we are currently in the longest ever gap between new HD capa…

The main speed increases as of late have been in CPUs adding more cores, most apps people use don't take advantage of all the available threads. Here I have a top of the line i7 3770k, a Samsung 840 Pro SSD, 16GB of RAM and Firefox will freeze up maxing out on 11% CPU usage and 3.5GB of RAM. I do use some apps that take more advantage of my hardware but most of the time all that horse power does me zero good.

Most computers nowadays have more horse power than most people need for all their common task, upgrading offers little to no advantage for most and as such is a waste of dwindling disposable income.

Re: PC sales plunge, Microsoft and Windows 8 blamed

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Is this a satire? I find it hard to believe that Microsoft and Windows 8 is to solely blame for any decline in PC sales. Haven't PC sales been declining for some time now? This sounds like a pretty far-fetched claim to make here. Considering here in Australia you can still buy a new PC with Windows 7 installed, I find it hard to believe that consumers are opting not to buy a computer just because of Windows 8 comes p…

But it still sucks for Microsoft. Because those sales include the "hybrid" sales, too, so whatever this means for the "PC market", it's still very bad for the "Windows" ecosystem and Microsoft.

Re: PC sales plunge, Microsoft and Windows 8 blamed

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Bah, PC makers have done this to themselves. Look at their starting lineup...compare it to your average tablet. The tablet is, surprisingly, a better experience. Why? Because it has a solid state drive.

It's kind of like what would happen to Porsche / BMW / Mercedes-Benz if a car maker came along that offered an electric sports car for $20K that performed like their $70K offerings. No one wants to buy a $50K BMW that performs worse than a $20K electric car...that's easy to understand. Unfortunately, these PC makers haven't grasped this concept...which says a lot about them; they are too intent on preserving their price structure (that overpriced upgrade to a SSD) to realize that they need to spec them in standard, or they will collapse (their company will shed stock). The nature of the game has changed, but they're still worshiping Jobs and picking over his final words for any hidden meanings to guide them to profitability. Yesh.

I mean seriously, Ultrabooks? "Oh yeah, we'll just copy the MacBook Air, and BAM! Profit!" Because that's what consumers want...a more expensive, less useful version of a laptop. Only now that the Jobs reality distortion field is fading are we seeing people wake up, and wonder whether they really want an iPhone 6.

Re: PC sales plunge, Microsoft and Windows 8 blamed

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There was a time when I would have felt seriously behind the times using my 3.5 year old PC. Maybe I just have different priorities now, but I no longer feel any compulsion to upgrade. I'm not aware of anything that a new PC can do that my current one can't, besides an incremental, barely noticeable speed bump. On a related note, am I right in thinking that we are currently in the longest ever gap between new HD capa…

I use a May 2004 Dell Precision 650 running Windows XP every day for VMware, Dynamips Router Simulation, Visio, Outlook, Power Point, Excel, Word, PDF generation. I've got a 150+ Page document open in Word right now. I realize that a new machine might be a bit faster - but, this current computer has been so rock for the last couple years - I haven't had a blue screen/lockup in 3+ years - that I don't want to mess wit…

HP XW6200 workstation (recycled) similar vintage, twin P4 Xeons, works fine with Linux.

I'm tempted by the floating point performance of the newer chips but for normal uses (LibreOffice Web &c) no problems.

Re: PC sales plunge, Microsoft and Windows 8 blamed

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There was a time when I would have felt seriously behind the times using my 3.5 year old PC. Maybe I just have different priorities now, but I no longer feel any compulsion to upgrade. I'm not aware of anything that a new PC can do that my current one can't, besides an incremental, barely noticeable speed bump. On a related note, am I right in thinking that we are currently in the longest ever gap between new HD capa…

The main speed increases as of late have been in CPUs adding more cores, most apps people use don't take advantage of all the available threads. Here I have a top of the line i7 3770k, a Samsung 840 Pro SSD, 16GB of RAM and Firefox will freeze up maxing out on 11% CPU usage and 3.5GB of RAM. I do use some apps that take more advantage of my hardware but most of the time all that horse power does me zero good. Most co…

simply upgrading to SSD is a huge performance booster. if i were still in IT, I would migrate all PCs to SSD, and that's it.

Re: PC sales plunge, Microsoft and Windows 8 blamed

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There was a time when I would have felt seriously behind the times using my 3.5 year old PC. Maybe I just have different priorities now, but I no longer feel any compulsion to upgrade. I'm not aware of anything that a new PC can do that my current one can't, besides an incremental, barely noticeable speed bump. On a related note, am I right in thinking that we are currently in the longest ever gap between new HD capa…

Hard drive makers have been able to make 1 TB platters for a while, so 5 TB drives wouldn't be a problem at all (or even bigger drives, though in the past few years 5 platters have been the maximum). They simply chose not to make them because the demand even for 4 TB drives isn't so strong.

The Thailand floods 2 years back also hampered innovation in the hard disk industry.
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