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Backlift (YC W12) Launches A Back-End Service For Front-End Developers

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Re: Backlift (YC W12) Launches A Back-End Service For Front-End Developers

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Having been primarily a backend developer for most of my career, I generally view these services with suspicion. But the rate of new entries into this space makes me wonder if one day I'll be considered a luddite for thinking this way.

I have had the same reaction. I am not sure what customer pain these services are addressing. Even if it made prototyping and MVP developing vastly easier, what happens if the product starts to take off? The lock-in seems dramatic, but I could be off-base.

* disclaimer: I'm working on a service that's an entry into this space as well *

I believe the customer pain is that for many applications, it takes many iterations before the product takes off -- and for non-developers, who have to hire developers to implement each iteration, it could be cost-prohibitive to get to the take off stage. Easy application prototyping and MVP developing products allows agility in fine tuning ideas to make sure it meets a need, before spending the money to hire a developer and implementing the final, more optimized version.

It's also advantageous for developers to use these products as well -- not only is it faster to develop (no need to learn a ton of APIs), it's also easier mentally to change the product to suit a business need (after all, it's easier to toss out an afternoon's worth of work than 2 weeks', if needed)

Re: Backlift (YC W12) Launches A Back-End Service For Front-End Developers

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post #4

Having been primarily a backend developer for most of my career, I generally view these services with suspicion. But the rate of new entries into this space makes me wonder if one day I'll be considered a luddite for thinking this way.

I have had the same reaction. I am not sure what customer pain these services are addressing. Even if it made prototyping and MVP developing vastly easier, what happens if the product starts to take off? The lock-in seems dramatic, but I could be off-base.

As a student, I feel compelled to mention the educational value of services like these.

Re: Backlift (YC W12) Launches A Back-End Service For Front-End Developers

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post #4

Having been primarily a backend developer for most of my career, I generally view these services with suspicion. But the rate of new entries into this space makes me wonder if one day I'll be considered a luddite for thinking this way.

Im sure when calculators first came out there were people who didnt trust them either.

Re: Backlift (YC W12) Launches A Back-End Service For Front-End Developers

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post #10

Hi if you're having trouble creating projects, we apologize. We recently moved to a build process that pulls packages directly from Github, and unfortunately that code is acting up. We're working on it.

Thanks for the update. I ran into "unexpected error" when trying to create a project but they ended up appearing when I refreshed the page. Then somehow I landed on: https://test-lozige.backliftapp.com/

This is an example of a partially downloaded app. There should have been a bundle of bootstrap stylesheets pulled from github, which didn't make it.

Re: Backlift (YC W12) Launches A Back-End Service For Front-End Developers

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post #10

Hi if you're having trouble creating projects, we apologize. We recently moved to a build process that pulls packages directly from Github, and unfortunately that code is acting up. We're working on it.

Thanks for the update. I ran into "unexpected error" when trying to create a project but they ended up appearing when I refreshed the page. Then somehow I landed on: https://test-lozige.backliftapp.com/

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Re: Backlift (YC W12) Launches A Back-End Service For Front-End Developers

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post #4

Having been primarily a backend developer for most of my career, I generally view these services with suspicion. But the rate of new entries into this space makes me wonder if one day I'll be considered a luddite for thinking this way.

I have had the same reaction. I am not sure what customer pain these services are addressing. Even if it made prototyping and MVP developing vastly easier, what happens if the product starts to take off? The lock-in seems dramatic, but I could be off-base.

The pain is that Backend developers are expensive, and there are not a lot of good ones. Most of the good backend developers are already hired in big companies. Creating Backend functionality is not just about putting your webservices up into AWS and that is it. There is a lot of capacity planning, Security concerns, scalability concerns, etc. Things that are usually covered by more than 1 person.

Additionally not all Backend as a Service have that extreme lock-in. In our case (iKnode) you build your backend using pure C# code, which is your and you can take with you. Creating Web Services out of the code you put in our servers is plain and simple.

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