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Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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and that's when, with regulation and control, decentralisation and anonimity vanishes

...in your country, maybe. Bitcoin runs on IP and FinCEN isn't everywhere.

Please, follow the conversation. We are talking about the SEC and users crying foul. Not the impact bitcoin will have today, or tomorrow.

Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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bitcoin is done. Why would anyone take this seriously and use it as a store of value when it has had this much volatility in one month without any fundamental reason? The problem with bitcoin is that hardly any businesses support it as a unit of payment, without having to convert to a real currency. So as a result, bitcoin does not have any fundamental value. It's purely for speculation and fun.

Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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Most people who aren't risk-tolerant toward things like this are using services that instantly (or daily) convert to USD or EUR to minimize losses due to exchange rate flux. It's really only a big deal for speculators, or people who are trying to run a btc-in-from-customers, btc-out-to-vendors business. SR is probably pretty interesting today.

How do you instantly convert USD and BTC when the prices are this volatile? Bitpay quotes BTC prices good for 10 minutes.

Obviously, you can't. The intra-day prices have only been this volatile for 3 or 4 days out of 1000, though.

I think a half of one percent is pretty good for something that finally solved the centralization problem for digital currency and has only been really useful for a couple of years. It will, of course, continue to get better with time as the size of the market increases.

This big flux could well have been caused by a single old-school miner/collector dumping $1-2mm of BTC in one batch, too. Remember, these markets aren't really that big yet.

Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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We get it. Bitcoins have value and that value changes. Surely there's a better place to discuss this.

I just saw them mention it on CNBC its national news surely hackernews should be discussing the technical aspects of national news, especially when it involves a virtual internet currency.

I don't consider a post that only points to the current value to be a discussion of technical aspects.

Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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Not that I'd wish monetary loss on anyone, but if the first Bitcoin crash is any indication, these things tend to have a positive side-benefit of driving out most of the speculators flooding in after all the news reports that fuel these cycles, and the people actually interested in the currency itself stay behind, with an influx of new folk. After all the noise dies down, new businesses and services get built backed…

If you wouldn't wish monetary loss on people investo-speculating near-randomly in a very small market for an emerging decentralized cryptocommodity, who WOULD you wish it on?

What is this, "too small to fail"?!

Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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Can someone tell me how to put a filter on my Hacker News account to remove the multiple-times-a-day articles about Bitcoin? Bitcoin is the opposite of a useful thing for my business, where I need actual revenue in dollars so I can turn around and pay my expenses in dollars.

This is a community with a variety of interests and needs that shares articles that may or may not line up with your interests and needs 100% of the time. That's the price of going to a collectively aggregated news and discussion site, you have to see stories that may not be specifically relevant to you.

Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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...in your country, maybe. Bitcoin runs on IP and FinCEN isn't everywhere.

Please, follow the conversation. We are talking about the SEC and users crying foul. Not the impact bitcoin will have today, or tomorrow.

Does it really matter which US-based regulatory body I'm dismissing as irrelevant? The long-term impact of Bitcoin is way bigger than any one country or culture.

Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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someone made some serious dough today

and just wait for the SEC to reverse their recent no action decision when the people on the losing end start crying foul.

I'm actually really curious, how could the SEC (or any agency) take any action here? Sure, they can make rules that say you shouldn't trade bitcoins, or maybe even threaten fines ... but for someone who doesn't care to report their activity, is there any way to be "Stopped" from doing so?

Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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Market is all over the place - I logged in with chrome, hit "Sell at current Bid Price" - (which was $135) - but the interface wouldn't accept a click on the "Sell Button" Thought it might be my browser, so I tried logging in with Firefox, hit "Sell at Bid Price" - Which, about 30 seconds after my first attempt with chrome was now $175. Something is going to crash spectacularly when you get a $40 swing on something l…

This looks so intentional. Deploy a JS that breaks right when there is panic.

Yeah, Mt.Gox behaves really badly. I made a few immediate orders some time ago and they're still pending. Totally unreliable.

Re: Bitcoin down 60% to $100

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Market is all over the place - I logged in with chrome, hit "Sell at current Bid Price" - (which was $135) - but the interface wouldn't accept a click on the "Sell Button" Thought it might be my browser, so I tried logging in with Firefox, hit "Sell at Bid Price" - Which, about 30 seconds after my first attempt with chrome was now $175. Something is going to crash spectacularly when you get a $40 swing on something l…

Same problem, can't sell... :( I also tried putting in a buy order, but it didn't go through either. Looks like a good opportunity for an alternative exchange...

I haven't tried it yet, but if I was going to sell BTC for USD I would give this one a go: https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/ They only buy BTC, and it's a fixed price instead of an of exchange.
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