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Re: Bitcoin falls from $266

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Don't worry! It won't ever fall below its intrinsic value!

Serious question: Is that really a fair criticism of BTC? Because afterall, our beloved US currency is fiat based, and often subject to whims of geopolitical games.

USD are backed by the fact that US citizens have to pay in USD to pay their taxes. Bitcoins have no such imperative.

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No, because you can't go from Bitcoin back to electricity in the same way you could smelt a gold coin.

Maybe you could give someone a bitcoin and they'd give you x amount of compute time on their cluster equal to the time they'd need to generate a new bitcoin. ?

That's a transaction based on market value, not intrinsic value. Someone might take you up on that, but it would depend on their valuation of your bitcoin, not some kind of inherent equivalence between bitcoins and other assets.

Re: Bitcoin falls from $266

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So if someone decides to sell 1 bitcoin at $157, immediately the lowest price falls to $157, causes panic among other bitcoin-ers and they all start selling, is that how the market works? I am not sure what is going on, I placed an order to buy at $210 but that is still pending since yesterday.

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To everyone claiming that bitcoin isn't a currency, no shit! Currency doesn't happen overnight, it's a process to get there. Just like anything revolutionary, it takes time before anyone knows what it will be come. By the time (with a very big IF) bitcoin becomes a viable currency, it's price won't be $200 anymore. It'll be at least a few thousand per coin and people will be transacting in micro bitcoins. What bitcoi…

I have a personal reason to hate it: it thinks it's revolutionary when it's actually just... money.

It solves no problems because it carries greed with it.

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Two of the largest exchanges seems to be under DDOS (mtgox and bitstamp). And it wasn't 6 hours it was more like 1 hour.

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> I wonder why MtGox doesn't shut down for the day to deter panic selling?

Because the next morning everyone panics that MtGox feels they can lock you out of your money and withdraws everything?

Re: Bitcoin falls from $266

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Don't worry! It won't ever fall below its intrinsic value!

I just thought about something I'd never thought before: Could it be said that bitcoins _do_ have an intrinsic value equal to the marginal amount of electricity and equipment needed to produce one?

> Could it be said that bitcoins _do_ have an intrinsic value equal to the marginal amount of electricity and equipment needed to produce one?

No, that's an intrinsic cost. It would only be an intrinsic value if that electricity and equipment could inherently be extracted back from the bitcoin. The intrinsic value of gold comes from what you can use gold for other than a medium of exchange. Bitcoin has neither the intrinsic value of commodity currencies nor the sovereign backing of fiat currencies.

Re: Bitcoin falls from $266

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: Is that really a fair criticism of BTC? Because afterall, our beloved US currency is fiat based, and often subject to whims of geopolitical games.

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And what's the backing of US citizens paying taxes? If all of the population decided to not pay taxes tomorrow, what power US government has to make them pay up? Government itself operates on the backing of people's consent. That's not too different from Bitcoin users' consent.
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