GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by 0x1997 » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 12:22 PM UTC

Re: GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by threedaymonk » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:08 PM UTC

    Note: 2.0.8 was a brown paper bag release that was never announced, but
    some mirrors may have picked it up.  Please do not use it.

I'm a native speaker of English, but I don't understand the idiom of "brown paper bag release". A search shows that it's quite widely attested, however.

What does it mean (and what's its origin)?

Re: GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by guan » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:14 PM UTC

threedaymonk wrote: post #2

Note: 2.0.8 was a brown paper bag release that was never announced, but some mirrors may have picked it up. Please do not use it. I'm a native speaker of English, but I don't understand the idiom of "brown paper bag release". A search shows that it's quite widely attested, however. What does it mean (and what's its origin)?

It refers to the practice of wearing a brown paper bag over your head if you don’t want people to see your face. In this case, the developers are (figuratively) doing this because they are embarrassed over some aspect of version 2.0.8.

Re: GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by pdw » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:17 PM UTC

threedaymonk wrote: post #2

Note: 2.0.8 was a brown paper bag release that was never announced, but some mirrors may have picked it up. Please do not use it. I'm a native speaker of English, but I don't understand the idiom of "brown paper bag release". A search shows that it's quite widely attested, however. What does it mean (and what's its origin)?

http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/lk/lk-2.html#ss2.13

Re: GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by rvasco » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:17 PM UTC

threedaymonk wrote: post #2

Note: 2.0.8 was a brown paper bag release that was never announced, but some mirrors may have picked it up. Please do not use it. I'm a native speaker of English, but I don't understand the idiom of "brown paper bag release". A search shows that it's quite widely attested, however. What does it mean (and what's its origin)?

"A bug in a public software release that is so embarrassing that the author notionally wears a brown paper bag over his head for a while so he won't be recognized on the net. Entered popular usage after the early-1999 release of the first Linux 2.2, which had one. The phrase was used in Linus Torvalds's apology posting."

Re: GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by Keyframe » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:18 PM UTC

threedaymonk wrote: post #2

Note: 2.0.8 was a brown paper bag release that was never announced, but some mirrors may have picked it up. Please do not use it. I'm a native speaker of English, but I don't understand the idiom of "brown paper bag release". A search shows that it's quite widely attested, however. What does it mean (and what's its origin)?

Hiding something in plain sight, like alcohol bottle from liquor store, your head, etc...

Re: GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by shared4you » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 3:13 PM UTC

Does anyone know which parts of R6RS have been implemented so far? The release notes only says "a large subset".

Re: GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by 13b9f227ecf0 » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 3:19 PM UTC

Anybody have comments on Guile vs. V8 for embedding purposes? Performance? API quality?

Re: GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by davexunit » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 3:43 PM UTC

13b9f227ecf0 wrote: post #8

Anybody have comments on Guile vs. V8 for embedding purposes? Performance? API quality?

I can't answer your actual question, but it is recommended to extend rather than embed.

See: http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/slides/andy-wingo-guile.pd...

Re: GNU Guile 2.0.9 released

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Post by frozenport » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 4:00 PM UTC

13b9f227ecf0 wrote: post #8

Anybody have comments on Guile vs. V8 for embedding purposes? Performance? API quality?

One of my favorite simulators, Meep (http://ab-initio.mit.edu/wiki/index.php/Meep) uses Guile as a control interface. From my experience using Guile presents an unnecessary obstacle to even the most brightest programmers. I frequently see bash scripts writing HERE scheme files because for loops are too difficult in scheme.