Lulu: An App No One Should Accept • Hacker News Board

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by loceng » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:51 PM UTC

Steuard wrote: post #118

neya wrote: post #69

Where are all the feminists now? This is the perfect example of double-standards implied by women. Imagine an alternative scenario where men could rate their female counterparts on the basis of their 'assets' as defined by some vague methodology. Imagine how much fire under men would be, with ALL men being broadly labelled as sexists because this app was targeted at men. I am seriously asking - Where are all the femi…

Right here. Pissed off that this app exists. But recognizing that it's a lower priority than a heck of a lot of other things in our society. (I've got a top level post going into this in more detail.) Opposing this type of service looks to me like a classic part of feminism, no question. If you have specific evidence that "the feminists" do not oppose this sort of thing, now would be a great time to share.

Would like to read when you've posted it. Anywhere I can look for it?

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by StavrosK » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:52 PM UTC

nateabele wrote: post #115

StavrosK wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the former CTO of that company, I really doubt this. When I was there, the app was built on Django, and I left some pretty competent people behind, so I'm quite sure they wouldn't have made a mistake so rudimentary. However, I don't know what happened after I left, so there might have been some dubious decisions.

Ah, so apparently guys are still good enough to hire. Interesting. Care to share your experiences on what it was like to work there?

While I was there, we were building a social network for women, something between Path and Facebook where they could share their day-to-day with their closest friends. The rating thing was sort of an afterthought, I guess they pivoted.

There wasn't really a guy-hating culture, in fact, most of the employees there were men. I don't know how it's changed since.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by marknutter » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:52 PM UTC

jtbigwoo wrote: post #108

neya wrote: post #69

Where are all the feminists now? This is the perfect example of double-standards implied by women. Imagine an alternative scenario where men could rate their female counterparts on the basis of their 'assets' as defined by some vague methodology. Imagine how much fire under men would be, with ALL men being broadly labelled as sexists because this app was targeted at men. I am seriously asking - Where are all the femi…

They're here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/02/07/lulu_app_for... and here: http://jezebel.com/5982867/the-creepy-new-yelp-for-boys-and-... Do you not know how to use google?

I think the OP is asking where the "shitstorm" is.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by philipbjorge » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:52 PM UTC

ndeyx wrote: post #26

Take a look here : http://m.luludude.com/

From onlulu.com's FAQ: "Lulu Dude is a separate app we created for the boys because we do not let them into the original Lulu.

Guys don’t see what the girls see. We let them select their relationship status and profile picture and we encourage them to get their “fan base” to review them.

Lulu Dude is also a place for guys to get self-improvement tips. Think of Lulu Dude as Cosmo for guys."

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by narag » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:53 PM UTC

jgrahamc wrote: post #4

I can't help feeling that the people who use such an app to date and rate deserve each other.

If girl is so naive to believe that the competition is going to disclose trusworthy information, indeed, she deserves what she finds.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by loceng » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:54 PM UTC

shanelja wrote: post #7

Lets not act as though this is in anyway revolutionary, people have bitched behind other peoples backs for as long as there have been people. Bitterness, anger and jealousy are unfortunately some of the strongest traits we humans have, especially when it comes to our interactions with one another, this application, while on the surface immoral, is simply providing a means for this to happen online. I don't in anyway…

The unfortunate part of all of this is it could potentially perpetuate the negativs this has on relationship building, and on society as a whole. If people were on there to verify information or maybe even offer counseling of sorts to help people get through resentment, anger, jealousy, etc. then it'd be helpful - but I don't imagine anyone would use that app for that. I wonder even if any of my female friends would come forward to say contrary to what the herd is saying for fear of being ridiculed, etc..

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by VexXtreme » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:54 PM UTC

I bet it's just a matter of time before they piss off the wrong person, get hacked or DDoSed out of existence. And I sincerely hope that the bitch who owns the company never succeeds at another product again.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by kybernetyk » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:55 PM UTC

ndeyx wrote: post #58

edwardunknown wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is that? It wants a Facebook.

I don't have Facebook account myself, but it's related to Lulu app and onlulu (according to the faq). Apparently, guys can see what girls say about them.

So you sign in with your FB account, they pull in your data and put it into their app db so ladies can find you easier?

Very ... smart.

/edit: Oh, their privacy disclaimer states that they will also pull your friends' data into their DB.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by fluidcruft » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:57 PM UTC

nawitus wrote: post #73

jk215 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Men have had the upper hand since the dawn of existence and still have the upper hand in basically every society in the world.

Nope, men have the upper hand and lower hand, and if you take the average out of that then women are men are equal at least in all Western nations. Even though 60-80% of politicians may be male, that's contrasted with 80% of homeless people being male, 80% of suicides made by men. If we look at young people, then women clearly have the uppder hand. In addition to having the upper hand in dating, they out-earn young m…

If "men have the upper hand and lower hand"; then, yes men actually do have the upper hand.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by fab13n » Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 1:57 PM UTC

Irregardless wrote: post #65

Who cares? Would you want to date a girl who uses a gossip app anyway? No. Hell no. If this helps steer the superficial airheads in another direction, I'd only have one thing to say to Chong: "Thanks!" Saves us the trouble of finding out the hard way, at least.

> If this helps steer the superficial airheads in another direction

That's only true if you don't have what gossip girls like; but attraction is definitely not a symmetrical relationship.