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Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Be careful with your trivial SQL injection, if the US police find out, that's 60 years behind bars, no access to a computer and daily "fun" in the shower.

But, no sexist gossip.

You're not thinking like an entrepreneur. That just means that prison rape victims are an untapped* market.

*badoom, pish!

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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isn't lulu a self-publishing service?

Lulu is a name. Services and products often use generic terms and names.

I think Clan McDonald would probably have a problem starting a chain of restaurants. I was completely confused by this online service (app or not) having the same name as another online service.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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I don't think it's quite as dramatic as you say. But personally I'm ok with it. Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Owning property. Voting. Higher education. Being allowed to practice a profession. Being favored by marriage laws. Being favored by social biases. Like Peter Parker and Voltaire say, "With great power comes great responsibility." Having received a substantial boost…

>Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Not really. Men have had more freedom but less security. Just because you personally like your gender role (as it seems), that doesn't mean other men agree (or agreed in the past). Sure, men were allowed to be employees and women cared for the children at home (though reality was actually a lot more complex than that, but we can accept this c…

You've made a lot of soup out of a small amount of meat. Some quick replies to clear up misunderstandings:

I agree that patriarchy is bad for men too. I disagree that it was equally bad for both genders. I disagree that we have reached balance. By "manning up", I don't mean reinforcing gender roles or maintaining gender inequality. I mean that men should, as the relatively privileged parties, not be whiny at either the shift toward balance or the small anti-male inequities that crop up temporarily along the road to equity.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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I used to be unhappy about this app until I found an SQL injection vulnerability that allowed me to log in and access the accounts of my previous dates by only needing to know their email addresses. This meant I was able to manipulate the ratings and comments people had made about me. Now I like the app :) Thanks Lulu!

As the former CTO of that company, I really doubt this. When I was there, the app was built on Django, and I left some pretty competent people behind, so I'm quite sure they wouldn't have made a mistake so rudimentary. However, I don't know what happened after I left, so there might have been some dubious decisions.

If there's one thing the internet has taught me, there is no such thing as ironclad code. OpenBSD still has security vulnerabilities, and I highly doubt Lulu's security chops are as good.

That said, I'm not trying to doubt the skill of Lulu's employees. Just warning that vulnerabilities are always a possibility.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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I can't wait to see this buried beneath older stories with fewer points and comments, the way every story on sexism gets buried here. Oh wait this is about how awful women are to men. Never mind.

What are you talking about? I see at least a few stories per week on sexism in the top 10. Given that this place is more technology/startup-related than "let's talk about society", that's a pretty good frequency for just one of many valid social causes.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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This is good. I wouldn't care to date or even consider someone who would resort to such shallow methods to figure out if I was "worth it". That is, assuming something negative about me would be said. I can't really see how this would be anything but negative towards the men. He would be an ex for a reason. Jgrahamc said it well- if you are using this app, you deserve who you get.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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It'd be interesting to see a review of Lulu that didn't seem to be mainly made of "dude with baseball cap, suddenly concerned that he might be called to account". To me, the emotional heart of this piece of writing is his concern with "men kowtowing". I looked at his other articles and his personal site, and I didn't see anything where his writing was half this passionate. And certainly nothing where he'd expressed c…

Um.... So because the author doesn't normally soapbox about this hot-button issue but felt unusually compelled to call this instance out, you're less inclined to take him seriously? Never mind that either side of that is the worst kind of ad hominem.

Exactly. Because that, along with the article itself, suggests that the unusual compulsion is not a strong opposition to sexism.

Ad hominem concerns apply to rational arguments. This piece is not cool, rational discourse. It's a highly emotional piece, written to incite emotion. Inquiring about the source and nature of the emotion that drives it is fair.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Where are all the feminists now? This is the perfect example of double-standards implied by women. Imagine an alternative scenario where men could rate their female counterparts on the basis of their 'assets' as defined by some vague methodology. Imagine how much fire under men would be, with ALL men being broadly labelled as sexists because this app was targeted at men. I am seriously asking - Where are all the femi…

>I am seriously asking - Where are all the feminists now? Especially the ones who know this app..

Don't worry, they are certainly ready with the argument that it is the "patriarchy" that makes this app acceptable but not the reverse.

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