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Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

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Re: Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

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post #32

I hope by the time we hit major problems with Bitcoin we will have several new digital currencies to chose from. Nobody ever said there needs to be only one, after all.

Or that enough services, project and uses have sprung up to keep Bitcoin valuable enough to remain somewhat mainstream and not fade away.

Re: Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

#83
post #64

Actually, nothing stops a government from using fiscal stimulus if BitCoin is pervasively used. The US Government will, I'm sure, never accept taxes in anything other than US Dollars (that being the fundamental base of value the US Dollar is based on, and the subsequent avoidance of jail time due to not paying taxes or otherwise satisfying Uncle Sam), and they will remain free to helicopter-drop as many Dollars on th…

Also, not all of us consider Keynesian stimulus to be some wildly successful proved theory; I for one think you merely need to look out the window to see the failures of the theory to match reality. But fortunately, Keynesian is immune to criticism, because no matter how bad things get, Keynesian saved us from it being even worse, thus, no amount of failure can ever disprove the system. Phew! That said, BitCoin isn't the ideal either

Please explain how looking out the window and gathering local anecdotal data disproves a macroeconomic theory that in the short run, demand stimulates economies?

Re: Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

#84

This fundamental flaw is absolutely glaring to anyone who has any understanding of economic history -- and it's amazing to me how many technologists willfully disregard several centuries of accumulated experience. Because of their built-in deflationary spiral, Bitcoins can never meaningfully be used as a medium of exchange: it will always be tempting to keep your Bitcoins in your pocket and let them appreciate instea…

Again, the same is true for gold and several other metals.

Re: Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

#85
All I can say is that I've made 6$ on a 50$ investment in two days. That's more than a 10% increase in two days.

Problem is, when do I withdraw?

This is just a (zero-sum) game, stop taking it so seriously.

Re: Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

#86
post #26
post #3

This is the classic argument you hear a lot, particuarly from Keynsian economists is: bitcoin is bad because it's deflationary like gold. In the past when we were using gold, like during the Civil War, we couldn't pay soldiers so we went to greenbacks (paper money like today). That allowed the soldiers to get paid so we could continue to fight the war. Gold obviously has a physical practical limit that can be traded…

> Everyone knows if you save starting in your early 20s compounding interest it will be worth a ton more in 10 years, 20 years, etc. How are you expecting to get a ton more after 20 years? Even with a ridiculous constant real interest rate of 5%, you'll get only 2.6x your original investment after 20 years.

Well, if you start out with 400kg, you'll get a ton after 20 years, based on a 5% growth. :)

Re: Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

#87

This deflation argument seems to me it's an argument for the status quo, so if you are say Warren Buffet it is a vary valid concern. If on the other hand you just graduated undergrad and had a huge debt and your wage was actually set in bitcoins this would be great for you because the cost of paying off your dept would be from your bitcoin point of view spiraling to zero, as would the cost of everything else. That so…

"If on the other hand you just graduated undergrad and had a huge debt and your wage was actually set in bitcoins this would be great for you because the cost of paying off your dept would be from your bitcoin point of view spiraling to zero, as would the cost of everything else. That sounds like a pretty awesome situation to be in."

It would be! Except for the part where that very spiral discourages employers from paying wages in Bitcoin, since they'd make more money just holding on to those Bitcoins and letting the spiral make them money than they ever could paying workers with them. So those Bitcoin-paying jobs never leave the realm of the theoretical.

Re: Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

#88

This fundamental flaw is absolutely glaring to anyone who has any understanding of economic history -- and it's amazing to me how many technologists willfully disregard several centuries of accumulated experience. Because of their built-in deflationary spiral, Bitcoins can never meaningfully be used as a medium of exchange: it will always be tempting to keep your Bitcoins in your pocket and let them appreciate instea…

You should always take your debt in currency you earn.

Re: Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

#89
Out of curiosity, is there any way to design a crypto-currency that is at least marginally adaptive to deflation/inflation?

Like say, if the aggregate number of xcoins traded goes down, start allowing more xcoins to be mined and vice-versa?

Re: Bitcoin Is Fundamentally Flawed

#90

This fundamental flaw is absolutely glaring to anyone who has any understanding of economic history -- and it's amazing to me how many technologists willfully disregard several centuries of accumulated experience. Because of their built-in deflationary spiral, Bitcoins can never meaningfully be used as a medium of exchange: it will always be tempting to keep your Bitcoins in your pocket and let them appreciate instea…

IMHO, this isn't a failure. We know that it's not going to be a business-as-usual currency. Easy credit is an incentive for business; inflation is an incentive for consumers. Governments have much better control over that.

BC is better understood as a commodity market with a simpler financial instrumentation. Instead of trading contracts for goods, you are able to trade the good itself, at internet speed and scale. That's a big innovation and we've only started to realize the consequence of it.

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