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Re: Disney have stolen my artwork

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Post by pekk »

rbehrends wrote: post #46
yaddayadda wrote: post #24

"...I created at University and I was proud of it in many ways. Disney have used it..." If she passed any English classes or graduated from the mentioned university, then she deserves a tuition refund.

She is British (it says so on her site). Using plural verbs with organizations ("the police are coming", etc.) is perfectly correct British English; same for "at university" [1]. [1] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Writing-at-University-Phyllis-Creme/...

"the police is coming" is not correct American English, so it's unclear what you have revealed by using "the police are coming".

Re: Disney have stolen my artwork

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Post by leephillips »

So far "the internet" seems to be on this artist's side, apparently because her work was stolen by a corporation. Recent history suggests, however, that if Andy Baio[0] or Shepard Fairey[1] had ripped her off, she would be excoriated for asserting her rights and lectured about the wonders of remix culture.

[0]http://lee-phillips.org/music/whoIsTheDick/

[1]http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/08/entertainment/la-et-...

Re: Disney have stolen my artwork

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Post by clarkevans »

austenallred wrote: post #17

I have worked with Disney's intellectual property teams in the past, and I'm blown away that this slipped under the radar. They are very up-tight about protecting their own IP and the brand of their princesses. If this were somebody selling a T-Shirt on eBay I would say, "Don't worry about it," but this is Disney. They know better. Their entire business model is based on intellectual property. Time to lawyer up.

Why assume the worst? Wouldn't it be a bit easier to just find the relevant group and ask them how they'd like to resolve it? If they want to be jerks, sure, lawyer up. However, it might be a very simple conversation with a much more positive outcome.

Re: Disney have stolen my artwork

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Post by __david__ »

rbehrends wrote: post #46
yaddayadda wrote: post #24

"...I created at University and I was proud of it in many ways. Disney have used it..." If she passed any English classes or graduated from the mentioned university, then she deserves a tuition refund.

She is British (it says so on her site). Using plural verbs with organizations ("the police are coming", etc.) is perfectly correct British English; same for "at university" [1]. [1] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Writing-at-University-Phyllis-Creme/...

You are correct, though "the police are coming" isn't really a good example as that is proper American English, too.

Re: Disney have stolen my artwork

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Post by mieubrisse »

markdown wrote: post #34
mieubrisse wrote: post #12

While I sympathize with the author and wish her the best, I don't really see how this article belongs on HN.

Goodness me, there's someone like you in every thread.

Given the entirely non-technical nature of the post, it's not an unfair criticism to make. As others have pointed out, there is indeed a group on HN interested in IP (which I don't personally identify with) but who find stuff like this interesting even if it's not technical - I see that now, and that's merely our difference in opinion about what's relevant here.

But I'd recommend caution in criticizing that trope just for the sake of it: you're dissuading expression of possibly valid opinions on culture fitness, and those discussions are crucial for maintaining a culture anywhere.

Re: Disney have stolen my artwork

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Post by tibbon »

clarkevans wrote: post #63
austenallred wrote: post #17

I have worked with Disney's intellectual property teams in the past, and I'm blown away that this slipped under the radar. They are very up-tight about protecting their own IP and the brand of their princesses. If this were somebody selling a T-Shirt on eBay I would say, "Don't worry about it," but this is Disney. They know better. Their entire business model is based on intellectual property. Time to lawyer up.

Why assume the worst? Wouldn't it be a bit easier to just find the relevant group and ask them how they'd like to resolve it? If they want to be jerks, sure, lawyer up. However, it might be a very simple conversation with a much more positive outcome.

I agree that assuming the worst isn't the best idea- but I have to wonder how Disney's legal would react in the reverse situation? Would they assume the worst?

Re: Disney have stolen my artwork

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Post by fnordfnordfnord »

SoftwareMaven wrote: post #40

Further proof that large media companies don't actually care about intellectual property. They care about their property. Whether it is Disney stealing lions[1] or Fox stealing songs[2], their concern for your property is non-existent, but they are willing to throw you in jail if you think about using theirs. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_White_Lion 2. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jonathan-coulto…

Yup, here is a more thorough comparison:

http://robwrite.hubpages.com/hub/THE-LION-KING-Controversy-D...

Re: Disney have stolen my artwork

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Post by tibbon »

jamesaguilar wrote: post #29
cjbprime wrote: post #6

> I’m so mad because I have no chance at getting Disney to do anything about it. For such a straightforward violation, I don't see why there's any call for pessimism. Send them an invoice for a worldwide license, follow it up with a lawyer letter (find someone willing to do no-win-no-fee if you want) once the invoice is overdue.

I wonder how one prices out a worldwide license like this. Obviously if she put the prices at $1000/use, neither would Disney pay it nor would she recover that much from a court. But it's worth more than $0.01/use as well.

According to the MPAA, $1000/use would sound well within the range of real damages for any license misuse.

Re: Disney have stolen my artwork

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Post by [deleted] »

potatolicious wrote: post #7
xsmasher wrote: post #4

The cosmetics bag looks like a straightforward copyright violation. The second example, where no artwork was copied but there may have been some influence, is more complicated. How do you prove the inspiration came from the "stolen" art, and not Disney's own film or the original story? http://www.cornel1801.com/disney/Alice-Wonderland-Painting-R...

> "How do you prove the inspiration came from the "stolen" art, and not Disney's own film or the original story?" And even if you did prove it, is it illegal, and should it be illegal? All art is a derivation of something that came before it. Can someone reasonably claim ownership to "girl painting roses with paint brush as viewed from behind"?

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