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Re: Everpix

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Post by swisspol »

wavesounds wrote: post #80
swisspol wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Everpix founder here) We tried to make our privacy policy pretty clear and relatively easy to read at https://www.everpix.com/legal/privacy.html . What parts did you think were not detailed enough?

Do I still own my pictures once they are uploaded to your server? Does keeping my pictures stored on your server after the privacy policy changes count as 'continued use of the service'? What Im getting at is if you get bought by Microsoft, where does it say that Microsoft cant take my pictures and use them in their next ad or sell them to someone else?

(Everpix founder here) Ah I see. Sorry I should have pointed you out to our Terms of Services instead [1]. Our Privacy Policy mostly covers what we do with visitor's data.

Because Everpix ends up storing the entire life in photos of each of our users, we are very very careful with privacy matters and our policies.

For instance, as you can see in the TOS section "Proprietary Rights in Content on Everpix Services", users fully own their photos and we do not claim any ownership rights. The only right we ask is the one to display your photos on our platform back to you and to users with whom you choose to share them with (kind of obvious but it doesn't hurt to say it). One last (edge) case is if you explicitly give us some of your photos to improve our science [2]. For such photos you are giving us some rights.

[1] https://www.everpix.com/legal/terms.html

[2] https://support.everpix.com/entries/23173576-Giving-copies-o...

Re: Everpix

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Post by swisspol »

marcamillion wrote: post #79

So....I am a bit skeptical and would love for some clarity. I have been looking for something like this for my wife, for a while. She takes pictures like they are going out of style. But...can you explain your economics to me. How do you make money on users with huge libraries (300GB+)? The reason I want to know, is because I would feel more comfortable knowing that this is sustainable and properly thought out, than…

(Everpix founder here) You raise a fair question, but all I can share publicly is that we have a very optimized infrastructure designed from the ground up to deal with large amount of photos per user account.

I can assure you this is not a marketing ploy or some afterthought on how to make money. Everpix used to be subscription only (with 30 day trials), and we only recently added a Free tier, after we had a good understanding on how things would work.

Re: Everpix

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Post by swisspol »

hospadam wrote: post #13

So this looks amazing... and I want to buy into it... but I was just burned by Snapjoy several months ago. I feel like I'll pay the money... spend my time syncing my library and getting everything organized... and then someone else is going to snatch you guys up and shut it down. Clearly you guys have a business model and a product you're selling. If I can't even rely on you guys being in business long-term, what can…

(Everpix founder here) Thanks for the kind words!

Note that in the case of Everpix, one of our key goal is that no manual organization be needed. Just keep taking photos the way you are used to, let stuff sync in the background and we'll take care of the rest.

You can't really spend time organizing albums which could turn out to be wasted time in the future, since we don't even have manual albums or a trash. The only time you can spend with Everpix is more time enjoying your photo collection ;)

Re: Everpix

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Post by podperson »

Osmium wrote: post #74
podperson wrote: post #66

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I'm using Crashplan because it offered a good deal. It took me two months to complete my initial backup (i didn't back up everything but I did backup my main Aperture library) and incremental backups (for two laptops and a Mac Pro) have been quick and painless. Everpix is useless. Not only does it not handle RAW, it can't find pictures in libraries not in default locations.

As both a happy Crashplan user and a happy Everpix user, I don't think it's fair to compare the two directly. For me, Everpix is not primarily a backup service -- I shoot in RAW too, I also shoot movies, and for now Everpix doesn't help me with that. I use Everpix because I want to take my photo library on the go, so I can share photos with people or look at them myself, but my library is far too big (100 GB) to keep…

I think Everpix should be both a backup and sharing system, but I don't find it useful for either (since it won't find my actual main photo library but does cheerfully upload random stuff it finds elsewhere (um, sorry Everpix, but not everything in "Pictures" is a photo).

Crashplan ain't pretty, but that's not my top priority in a backup system.

Re: Everpix

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Post by innonate »

hospadam wrote: post #13

So this looks amazing... and I want to buy into it... but I was just burned by Snapjoy several months ago. I feel like I'll pay the money... spend my time syncing my library and getting everything organized... and then someone else is going to snatch you guys up and shut it down. Clearly you guys have a business model and a product you're selling. If I can't even rely on you guys being in business long-term, what can…

Hey -- deet already gave some info about Picturelife I'd also mention this: You can use your own S3 account with Picturelife and never pay us a dime. If we disappeared one day, all your photos would still be on your S3 account and with our free API you could get all your metadata out in a way you (or someone) could still use our frontend to access them. ~innonate, co-founder of Picturelife

Re: Everpix

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Post by dirtyaura »

swisspol wrote: post #51
dirtyaura wrote: post #49

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I've been testing Everpix today. You guys have really nailed it: clean, nice interface, fast browsing, easy syncing, automatic organization. Everything just works. And your Photo Mail sharing is almost perfect for my needs. Are you planning to allow mass export? I understood that you are using propriety image compression, thus mass export might be quite heavy operation, However, it's a kind of showstopper for me, if…

(Everpix founder here) It's definitely on our roadmap, but like every feature we build, we're taking our time to make sure we do it right. In the meantime, photos can be downloaded in full-res and with all metadata of course by "sets" from various places in the web UI.

Thanks! That's good to hear!

Re: Everpix

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Post by marcamillion »

swisspol wrote: post #82
marcamillion wrote: post #79

So....I am a bit skeptical and would love for some clarity. I have been looking for something like this for my wife, for a while. She takes pictures like they are going out of style. But...can you explain your economics to me. How do you make money on users with huge libraries (300GB+)? The reason I want to know, is because I would feel more comfortable knowing that this is sustainable and properly thought out, than…

(Everpix founder here) You raise a fair question, but all I can share publicly is that we have a very optimized infrastructure designed from the ground up to deal with large amount of photos per user account. I can assure you this is not a marketing ploy or some afterthought on how to make money. Everpix used to be subscription only (with 30 day trials), and we only recently added a Free tier, after we had a good und…

Fair enough....wish I could get specifics, but I understand.

Thanks for the explanation.

Re: Everpix

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Post by polskibus »

micheljansen wrote: post #65
polskibus wrote: post #61

Just had an idea - if so many people get burned by those disappearing saas sites, then perhaps it is time for startups to get some insurance to show themselves more trustworthy? For example, for each year running we will insure running unchanged for another year if we were to fail/get bought, etc. ? That could bring more trust into Saas business and perhaps make it less bitter.

This would be nice, if not: 1. Most services get acquired weeks or months after launching (Sparrow, Mailbox), and 2. Those promises are pretty hard to deliver on. If a company fails, who are you going to complain to when they don't keep running as promised? When a company gets acqui-hired and the mothership chooses to kill or freeze the service, they can just change the Terms & Conditions. It's becoming more and more…

I meant actual insurance, via insurance company. Delivery would be funded via money on the insurance. The insurer would've been obliged to comply with these terms. Regarding the killing after acquisition - I agree, but these are the cases the insurance would be targeted against. Those without insurance would be clear that they don't care about the user.

Re: Everpix

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Post by dsl »

swisspol wrote: post #18
dsl wrote: post #5

My first thought was Apple or Google is going to buy this. Love the UI, but nobody is going to pay a subscription fee for it (and I doubt that is the business plan anyway).

(Everpix founder here) You'd be surprised - our subscription rates actually tend to prove people are more than willing to pay for what we want to be a high-quality and very innovative photo platform :)

I didn't realize you did photo storage/backup too. Your website just shows a snappy mobile app for viewing the photos on my phone.

With that in mind, the subscription model makes sense.

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