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The Story Of A Failed Startup And A Founder Driven To Suicide

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Re: The Story Of A Failed Startup And A Founder Driven To Suicide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exit bags? In other words, it's to make suicide more palatable. I'm sure it has good intentions, but as they say: the road to hell is full of good intentions.

Oh that's right. Downvote something you don't like to read. My comment is no more objectionable than the one talking about Exit Bags - devices to enable suicide.

Why are you talking as me? I think you replied to the wrong comment.

Re: The Story Of A Failed Startup And A Founder Driven To Suicide

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Before you downvote please take into consideration that I'm just being realistic. Of course you should seek help and calm your mind back into a logical state. Still about 1 million people commit suicide each year. You and I are not going to change that. If you're seriously going to kill yourself, please do NOT use a gun or pills or jumping or cutting wrists or arteries. It's bad enough you've chosen to and finalized…

What motivated you to leave this comment on a recounting of the events leading up to Jody Sherman's suicide? If this story were about suicide instead of a person, I might see it. I typed up a snarky reply in that vein then realized I have absolutely no bearing on what would drive you into thinking this is a good idea, and I'm genuinely curious.

The insulation you required ("don't downvote me!") and the contortions of logic you had to apply to make this comment seem like a public service should tell you something about the comment you are currently typing. Sort of like "I don't mean to be racist, but..."

Re: The Story Of A Failed Startup And A Founder Driven To Suicide

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If true.. >One childhood friend recalled a time when Sherman committed insurance fraud. He described driving on a highway with Sherman when they were 16. Suddenly, Sherman told his friend to "buckle up." He slammed on the brakes and caused an accident. Later, the friend says, Sherman would collect thousands of dollars from insurance companies for the self-inflicted injuries. Fuck the dude.

Steve Jobs ripped Woz off when they were younger. Many people do awful things in the past. Young people (Jody was 16 here?) can be stupid & foolish. Hard to attribute that to the rest of his life with such a simple, "fuck the dude."

Steve Jobs, too, was a documented and notorious asshole.

Re: The Story Of A Failed Startup And A Founder Driven To Suicide

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I didn't know Jody, so I won't comment on him personally. Speaking as a former investor regarding the financial situation though...never ever ever ever. Financial controls aren't important just because VCs are greedy: they keep companies alive and keep you out of court (or jail). I've seen situations in which cash didn't quite reconcile to what was expected; in some, the people involved made restitution and were fire…

I agree that without looking at your margins, profits and cash at hand it seems like a tragedy waiting to happen.

He must have been very charismatic to be able to pull off these feats!

Re: The Story Of A Failed Startup And A Founder Driven To Suicide

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Stopped reading at the speculation that marijuana may have contributed to his suicide. The fuck???

Is that the one mood-altering drug that you think can't contribute to suicide? Or do you believe that none of them can?

Haven't you heard? marijuana has absolutely no bad effects. It's apparently safer than water and should be legalised immediately! What could go wrong?!

Re: The Story Of A Failed Startup And A Founder Driven To Suicide

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Before you downvote please take into consideration that I'm just being realistic. Of course you should seek help and calm your mind back into a logical state. Still about 1 million people commit suicide each year. You and I are not going to change that. If you're seriously going to kill yourself, please do NOT use a gun or pills or jumping or cutting wrists or arteries. It's bad enough you've chosen to and finalized…

> The one thing they'll have is the knowledge that you just left the earth peacefully and calmly.

Death by suicide, no matter the method, is always deeply distressing.

> about 1 million people commit suicide each year. You and I are not going to change that.

At least I'm trying to change it.

Re: The Story Of A Failed Startup And A Founder Driven To Suicide

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Before you downvote please take into consideration that I'm just being realistic. Of course you should seek help and calm your mind back into a logical state. Still about 1 million people commit suicide each year. You and I are not going to change that. If you're seriously going to kill yourself, please do NOT use a gun or pills or jumping or cutting wrists or arteries. It's bad enough you've chosen to and finalized…

What motivated you to leave this comment on a recounting of the events leading up to Jody Sherman's suicide? If this story were about suicide instead of a person, I might see it. I typed up a snarky reply in that vein then realized I have absolutely no bearing on what would drive you into thinking this is a good idea, and I'm genuinely curious. The insulation you required ("don't downvote me!") and the contortions of…

It isn't obvious? This is a community of entrepreneurs and just in the past 12 months there have been a few suicides and people saying goodbye on HN to those who have killed themselves. Entrepreneurs can be stubborn and blind sighted, if we don't succeed and acheive "Zuckerberg Status" before age 30 we flip the fuck out and want to end it all. To many of us, success is the only way to live. We're very prone to suicide. And because we're stubborn, realistically, you're not going to be able to convince a lot of us out of it. Even after you talk to us about options and give us support if we're going to do, we're going to do it. Might as well make a peaceful and easy for everyone involved rather than bloody and messy.

Because this isn't the last time someone's going to post a suicide notice and goodbye.

And I never said "don't downvote me!" my exact words were "before you downvote...".

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