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Re: Facebook Home

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Post by MojoJolo » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 6:09 AM UTC

film42 wrote: post #97

The site says $99, however, upon clicking preorder, we see it costs $450 without a contract. AT&T of course says, "*Requires 2-yr contract with qualifying voice and data plans. Activation fee applies." So this cool little idea just got a whole lot more expensive. I say wait for the rom to leak, and then dual boot it on a new Nexus 4. UPDATE: Sorry, I misread, this is just an overlay. Still though, the point still sta…

Based on what I read, the launcher is not available on Nexus 4. I don't get why Facebook Home doesn't support a stock Android.

Re: Facebook Home

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Post by lloeki » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 7:18 AM UTC

batiudrami wrote: post #187

enraged_camel wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, we aren't even allowed to joke about sexism now?

The problem, as with all sexist/racist/homophobic/etc jokes, is that even though you recognise that it's a joke, people who read it don't necessarily do so, and these kind of comments enable the people who believe this stuff to continue to say it, and to believe it's acceptable. When you're exposing your writing to potentially thousands of readers, you have to consider this. It's how reddit went from joking ironicall…

Always wink it when it's a joke [0]

[0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poes_law

Re: Facebook Home

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Post by mbrock » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 7:48 AM UTC

batiudrami wrote: post #187

enraged_camel wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, we aren't even allowed to joke about sexism now?

The problem, as with all sexist/racist/homophobic/etc jokes, is that even though you recognise that it's a joke, people who read it don't necessarily do so, and these kind of comments enable the people who believe this stuff to continue to say it, and to believe it's acceptable. When you're exposing your writing to potentially thousands of readers, you have to consider this. It's how reddit went from joking ironicall…

What about the sexism of Facebook's advertisement?

Re: Facebook Home

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Post by anonymous » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 7:54 AM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #152

ritchiea wrote: post #47

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Well you could try making some attractive new friends.

That has MVP written all over it. "Friend me and we'll inject awesome, and tasteful, photos into your photo stream."

And then you set all your other friends to not show up on the home screen? This has to be the most roundabout way possible for making your home screen a slideshow of random nature photos. I love it.

Re: Facebook Home

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Post by ehudla » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 8:00 AM UTC

Branding suggestion for competitors: "A grownup's Phone" for any phone that does NOT have facebook on your start/home screen.

Re: Facebook Home

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Post by adaml_623 » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 9:23 AM UTC

ritchiea wrote: post #140

rhp wrote: post #107

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His point is that while he's not intentionally on Facebook looking at questionable pictures, it's now on the lock screen of his phone, which he can't avoid if he needs to use it.

Sounds like he isn't a good candidate to use this particular app. Seems pretty clear a younger audience is going to be the core demographic for this product. College aged and younger who spend tons of time on facebook and socializing in general and typically do not have office jobs where "work appropriate" is even a concern.

That seems a bit illogical though as it's the people with jobs that have the money that advertisers are gunning for.

Re: Facebook Home

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Post by djpowell » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 9:26 AM UTC

dotBen wrote: post #16

I take issue with the problem statement: "today, phones are built around tasks and apps. To see what's happening with your friends, you pull out your phone and navigate through a series of separate apps." Firstly, the value to me in owning a smartphone and paying the charges associated with it is ultimately task orientated - from running my business, to getting driving directions, to wanting to play a specific genre…

Yeah, I often see technology: news tickers, desktop widget, live tiles, full-screen apps, etc; that seem to assume that I'll be spending some significant amount of staring at a device waiting for it to ambiently present me information at a snails pace, while I just stand there doing nothing.

Even when I'm using social features of my app, my focus is - "I'll see what my friends are up to while I wait for coffee"; "I'll post something to keep in touch with people". I'm never going to get my phone out of my pocket, turn on the screen, and just stand there hoping that if I wait long enough it might tell me something interesting.

Re: Facebook Home

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Post by beerglass » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 9:35 AM UTC

I think it really is bad news for Apple... if more such stuff starts coming exclusively on Android, then it is bad for Apple. And very good for Google. (posting this to get some insight, not to initiate ugly debate among Apple/Google fan-boys)

Re: Facebook Home

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Post by modarts » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 9:40 AM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #152

ritchiea wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you could try making some attractive new friends.

That has MVP written all over it. "Friend me and we'll inject awesome, and tasteful, photos into your photo stream."

This would be like a 20-30 mil acquisition right here.

Re: Facebook Home

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Post by duaneb » Fri, Apr 05, 2013, 10:54 AM UTC

ctdonath wrote: post #78

gpmcadam wrote: post #37

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It's pretty, but I left with no idea what exactly the product is.

It's a Facebook. Same problem as ~4 years ago when people first saw the iPad: "What exactly is it?" "It's iPad." "How do I quantify it in my paradigm of notebook computers?" "You don't." You're trying to quantify it as a smartphone. Facebook is positioning it as...well...a Facebook.

No, because the iPad is pretty obvious: you touch to screen. I can't even tell what's going on. Is it replacement for the lock screen? But then what's up with the messenger? Why is there an ad for an htc phone, but it's also android.... It's just confusing what they are trying to communicate other than attractive people.

Frankly