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Re: How To Hire Me (or any other programmer)

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Post by VikingCoder »

dinkumthinkum wrote: post #248
VikingCoder wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The employers I've worked at, since about 2002, have had a large pool to pick from, and those looking for a job have gotten less and less of a cut of profits and their benefits have been cut back, fairly consistently (relative to inflation, etc.) People are still afraid of losing their job. Some people have been under-employed for a long time, now, and are settling for jobs they previously left in distaste. A lot of…

Are you talking about programmers? Are you talking about the United States? If so, the evidence is not on your on side. It's actually so not on your side that I'm a bit flummoxed.

Software engineers, with advanced degrees and experience, in the United States. The majority of them are not citizens.

At the companies I've worked at, the evidence has been very much on my side.

Maybe I've just taken for granted how desirable the companies I've worked for really are.

Re: How To Hire Me (or any other programmer)

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Post by dinkumthinkum »

VikingCoder wrote: post #261
dinkumthinkum wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you talking about programmers? Are you talking about the United States? If so, the evidence is not on your on side. It's actually so not on your side that I'm a bit flummoxed.

Software engineers, with advanced degrees and experience, in the United States. The majority of them are not citizens. At the companies I've worked at, the evidence has been very much on my side. Maybe I've just taken for granted how desirable the companies I've worked for really are.

Are you saying there's not that many and especially since they are not US citizens? ... That means it's a seller's market.

Re: How To Hire Me (or any other programmer)

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Post by VikingCoder »

dinkumthinkum wrote: post #262
VikingCoder wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Software engineers, with advanced degrees and experience, in the United States. The majority of them are not citizens. At the companies I've worked at, the evidence has been very much on my side. Maybe I've just taken for granted how desirable the companies I've worked for really are.

Are you saying there's not that many and especially since they are not US citizens? ... That means it's a seller's market.

I'm saying that at the companies I've worked at, I've had a deluge of applications from extremely qualified candidates, the only hesitation anyone might have in hiring them is that a majority are not citizens.

It's a buyer's market where I've worked for my last three jobs.

Re: How To Hire Me (or any other programmer)

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Post by greenyoda »

lsc wrote: post #234
reledi wrote: post #231

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> I can hack on whatever; whenever; with whatever! So can everyone else, it's just not enjoyable for some people if they're stuck in a shitty office space with shitty hardware. Who wants to work at a place where they don't enjoy working?

More to the point, if you are paying someone six figures to write code, trying to save a few hundred bucks a year by giving them hardware they don't like is just plain stupid. I mean, as an employee, I don't care that much 'cause i'll bring in my own stuff if you don't provide me with hardware I like... but my experience? employers get itchy if you do this with more than, say, a keyboard. Most places don't want me su…

"More to the point, if you are paying someone six figures to write code, trying to save a few hundred bucks a year by giving them hardware they don't like is just plain stupid."

And if the company is stupid about something as fundamental as creating a productive working environment, you can be sure they'll be stupid about lots of other things as well.

Re: How To Hire Me (or any other programmer)

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Post by ballostix »

mindcrime wrote: post #80
edw519 wrote: post #23

How to hire me: 1. Tell me about the 3 biggest things you must accomplish. 2. Tell me why you must accomplish them. 3. Tell me when you must accomplish them by. 4. Tell me how you intend to accomplish them. 5. Tell me what you're already doing to accomplish them. 6. Tell me the role you envision me playing in accomplishing them. 7. Tell me what you expect from me. 8. Put me with some of the key people already working…

That's some good stuff, but I'd add a couple: 1a. Show me the office I'll be working in. Any "open plan" or "2+ people per office" setup decreases your odds of hiring me by about 93%. Not to say I'll never take a job like that, but it really, really hurts your odds. 1b. Show me the rest of the building... are there common areas where people can hang out and collaborate away from their offices, preferably with natural…

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