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Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy

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I have an iphone and even if I had an android, I'd never install this app or get an HTC First. I cannot say the same for everyone I'm fb friends with.

Question: if one of my fb friends installs this or buys that phone, will fb have any additional access to MY personal data?

Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy

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post #105

This is idiotic. For one, it's no secret which apps are popular. Facebook doesn't need a trojan horse to figure that out, they just need to look at App Annie. For another, any app with location services permissions can do exactly what he's describing. Also what does "Android allows Facebook to do whatever it wants on the platform, and that means accessing the hardware as well," mean? Unless you're rolling your own ve…

>> As far as I can tell this is just another third party launcher with the same privacy implications as any app that has GPS permissions. No, it doesn't. I was, till recently, using Nova Launcher and its permissions would pale in comparison with Facebook Messenger's permissions. Mind it, I am not mentioning the full fledged Facebook app here but just the messenger. I am just uninstalling it, to hell with those in my…

What's the privacy difference between G+ and FB?

Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy

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post #64

This is idiotic. For one, it's no secret which apps are popular. Facebook doesn't need a trojan horse to figure that out, they just need to look at App Annie. For another, any app with location services permissions can do exactly what he's describing. Also what does "Android allows Facebook to do whatever it wants on the platform, and that means accessing the hardware as well," mean? Unless you're rolling your own ve…

I agree with OM, Facebook Home is not just one app but a suite of apps running on your phone. The scary part is that these would be bundled by OEM's and might be harder to stop and even uninstall :( Think about the scenarios when you start to see all kinds of ad's popping up on your home screen and impossible to remove? . Remember, fb still needs to solve the problem of serving ad's on mobile well.

FB was already pre-installed and non-removable on many Anroid devices (including first-party Google devices!), so that's not a big change.

Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy

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post #68

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Exactly, this is "the money quote": "The scary part is that these would be bundled by OEM's and might be harder to stop and even uninstall".

I don't see how an informed consumer can't avoid this. I really started to dislike OEM's and decided to go Nexus. The number of bundled apps that went dead (Blockbuster went bankrupt and yet I was stuck with that app) or unsupported just drove me away. I understand that now instead of worrying about unsupported apps you have to worry about what these apps track in the background, however there are a number of other p…

Nexus has over a dozen force-installed apps (mostly the Play suite these days, but that keeps growing all the time -- a dedicated Magazine store, WTF?)

Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy

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Exactly, I don't see this any more privacy invasive than Google Now. It really boils down to how much you trust the company/app.

Why would you trust any company of that size?

Why would you trust a smaller company, that lacks the talent and funds to audit its staff and partners or secure its databases?

Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy

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I agree. Besides, most people who use Facebook are those "I have nothing to hide" types.

So? I still care about major parts of a society being that recklessly dumb. I live on this planet, it's my problem, too. I cannot afford to live in a "democracy" full of people who are so easily influenced and/or blackmailed. Their votes count as much as mine, so this is a bug.

How do you blackmail someone who has nothing to hide?

Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy

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post #18

I'm not sure why I would allow Facebook on to my phone in the first place, let alone to run the whole show. Their privacy record isn't exactly great and runs contrary to their business model. I don't trust their app (look at the email address change nonsense), let alone a bigger one, and the page renders just fine in a mobile browser. I also find the whole "ping me when a close friend does or says anything" aspect of…

> I also find the whole "ping me when a close friend does or says anything" aspect of the app as I've seen others use it to be a little obsessive and possibly even creepy.

The problem here is in your friendship, not Facebook.

Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy

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I have an iphone and even if I had an android, I'd never install this app or get an HTC First. I cannot say the same for everyone I'm fb friends with. Question: if one of my fb friends installs this or buys that phone, will fb have any additional access to MY personal data?

Obviously not, as Facebook already has ALL your data.

Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy

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post #99
post #83

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> They're scared of the legal liability of holding onto all the personal details they receive don't need but Facebook shares anyway because Facebook genuinely doesn't care as long as they're monetizing. I find it odd that Facebook isn't scared of the same legal liability. Infact, they should be more scared. I don't see any reason why Facebook would give away more information than they need to. They have the skill and…

> I find it odd that Facebook isn't scared of the same legal liability. Infact, they should be more scared. You don't understand how partnerships work in this case. Facebook is paid to provide data according to a contract between the two companies. That's it. They have many, many such contracts to fulfill with many partners. These contracts don't say "we provide exactly the data you ask for, no more, no less" because…

If this were true, you could make a fortune on a class action law suit against Facebook's breaches of their TOS.
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