Right, cause pre-Home Facebook was so respectful of people's private lives...
There's an Apple-tastic motto for you: All your privacy is gone. Again.
All your privacy is gone again. Better.Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy
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Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy
#42I'm not sure why I would allow Facebook on to my phone in the first place, let alone to run the whole show. Their privacy record isn't exactly great and runs contrary to their business model. I don't trust their app (look at the email address change nonsense), let alone a bigger one, and the page renders just fine in a mobile browser. I also find the whole "ping me when a close friend does or says anything" aspect of…
If you don't trust them, you wouldn't install this app. So... whats the issue? Nobody will be harmed by this.
"If you don't trust them, you wouldn't install this app. So... whats the issue?"
Other people will install it without thinking about the implications.
"Nobody will be harmed by this."
What definition of 'harm' are we using? Because they've already shown that given access to people's address books they cause trouble.
Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy
#43I know this doesn't ring true for most people, but I'm actively looking to distance myself from facebook. It doesn't make me "happy" for the most part. It doesn't add to my overall level of fulfillment. Most of my "friends" on fb aren't real friends and often I'm not truly interested in what they're doing. These are all common complaints - nothing new here, but they're all the reason why I'm not interested in incorpo…
It's a great idea! I've removed everybody from my news feed and use it for events, email, and finding keeping track of people I meet (Rolodex).
Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy
#44The article brings up a very good point about FB getting access to a lot more user data on the phone outside of their app since they essentially are replacing the app launcher as well. Google gets access to all this data by owning the OS. FB in that sense made a brilliant play. It kind of corrupts google's data collection as well since all user interaction will be going through the FB Home app now. Also its kind of n…
A launcher is just another app; it doesn't have any extra powers. It just happens be the app that is launched/restored when the home button is pressed -- that's it.
Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy
#45I think the more obvious and immediate threat to privacy is that anyone can see the contents of your facebook stream right on the lock screen; and they can even interact with the contents without unlocking the phone.
Do we know if that's true if the phone is password protected? (Honest question, I haven't been able to watch the video.)
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
You think Google will let that happen? They are enemies competing for the same market. What I think will happen is that Facebook will fork Android, offer facebook edition phones, and simply one up google. How come? Google is awfully bad at marketing, and Facebook is not.
Not too long ago when iOS was released users jumped ship to Android due to the maps fiasco. If Facebook forks Android, do you think people are willing to give up Google's ecosystem in exchange for Facebook's? Even if you find Facebook chat / messages a viable replacement for Gtalk / Gmail, this still means no access to Google Play Store. Amazon was willing to create a second competing marketplace and sell its devices…
> Not too long ago when iOS was released users jumped ship to Android due to the maps fiasco.
I don't think this really happened very much, but I'd love to see some numbers. Maybe a lot of tech enthusiasts waited on upgrading to stick with Google Maps until the new Google Maps came out.
> Amazon was willing to create a second competing marketplace and sell its devices as media players, but Facebook will not have those in place if they fork Android. Do you think Facebook has enough leverage to pull this off?
I would be surprised if Facebook went this way and didn't stay within the bounds other phone makers do and get Google certification. There is no reason why Google wouldn't allow Facebook to sell a phone with Google Play on it.
Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy
#47The article brings up a very good point about FB getting access to a lot more user data on the phone outside of their app since they essentially are replacing the app launcher as well. Google gets access to all this data by owning the OS. FB in that sense made a brilliant play. It kind of corrupts google's data collection as well since all user interaction will be going through the FB Home app now. Also its kind of n…
A launcher is just another app; it doesn't have any extra powers. It just happens be the app that is launched/restored when the home button is pressed -- that's it.
It also replaces the app drawer, which means when you click an app icon to launch an app -- from either the home screen or the app drawer -- FB Home can make a note of it and send that information to FB.
Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy
#48"This future is going to happen – and it is too late to debate. However, the problem is that Facebook is going to use all this data — not to improve our lives — but to target better marketing and advertising messages at us." A little sensationalized? It's most definitely a strong mix of both sides, not everyone at Facebook is "evil". Honestly I think most of us can agree Facebook on average is useful service that has…
I don't use the word "evil" pretty much for anybody, but I think the business model is at the very least screwed up. If it's a valuable service, why do they have to be so shady? I'd happily pay facebook $10/month or whatever (I can't imagine they make more than that on ads on me) to use their service. The problem is that they make it seem free, and people just don't understand the extent to which it tracks you. It's…
Is Google's business model screwed up as well?
Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy
#49This is idiotic. For one, it's no secret which apps are popular. Facebook doesn't need a trojan horse to figure that out, they just need to look at App Annie. For another, any app with location services permissions can do exactly what he's describing. Also what does "Android allows Facebook to do whatever it wants on the platform, and that means accessing the hardware as well," mean? Unless you're rolling your own ve…
Exactly, I don't see this any more privacy invasive than Google Now. It really boils down to how much you trust the company/app.
Yeah, google know your home and where your workplace is but doesn't publish it to everyone.
Facebook did that with a lot of information. Plus it may change how things behave without you agreement (think of @facebook.com emails)
Google also use that data to provide a service (automatically call the navigation app to came back home at night or just give you a reminder on places you go every week). I doon't think facebook will give any kind of service other than keep my friens updated about whatever I do and wherever I go and this is frightening (not the fact that a big company has this data but the fact that everyone will know it)
Re: Facebook Home destroys any notion of privacy
#50I think the more obvious and immediate threat to privacy is that anyone can see the contents of your facebook stream right on the lock screen; and they can even interact with the contents without unlocking the phone.
Do we know if that's true if the phone is password protected? (Honest question, I haven't been able to watch the video.)
Android already offers lock screen widgets, so it's possible FB Home will include something to that effect that would show even while the phone is locked.
It would be entirely optional to use that widget, however, unless FB Home is able to replace the lock screen itself. As far as I know, that can't be done without rooting the device.