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Stop externalising your life

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Re: Stop externalising your life

#91
My point requires a back story, but I think its worth it:

A few years ago several teenagers loitered everyday outside my apartment window. Sometimes they skateboarded, other times jumped off a wooden ramp with their bikes, but always did they curse and swear.

Especially one kid, who was the ringleader. Every second word was the f-shot. An angry kid.

So one summer evening, as I was trying to get work done but hearing this caustic stream of vulgarity outside my window, I decided to straighten these punks out. I went on my balcony and yelled at them to chill it with the bad language.

They looked at me as if I was an alien, then continued swearing as soon as I left. Louder this time. They swore even more from then on, especially the ringleader kid. He was angry for a kid.

I was getting angry too. Even with my windows closed I could hear the cursing. I was tempted to threaten them, to really let them "have it", but in a rare moment of sanity realized that I can't force them to do anything. I can only change myself and how I respond to them.

So I changed myself, and instead of getting angry, I decided to help them. I started a dog walking business and hired the ringleader to walk the dogs. That way he'd be busy and earn some spending money.

I gave him business cards with his name on it and bus tickets whenever he needed to get somewhere.

Turns out it was his first job ever. I later found out he had behavior problems and had been expelled from High School.

I befriended him and showed him how to go door-to-door to get clients. He didn't have a dad around so I was probably the closest thing to it.

He stopped swearing after that, and so did his friends. I didn't even ask them to.

Unfortunately his unemployed mother was evicted about a year later, and he with her. I haven't seen or heard from him since.

Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

Re: Stop externalising your life

#92

Externalizing isn't just pictures. It's words, as well. They are often more powerful than pictures, when in the right hands. I find it a bit amusing that the OP externalized his trip in an article about how people shouldn't externalize--describing not just where he was ( Singapore! ), but how long he was there ( a whole month! ), the food ( exotic! ), sights ( there were so many! ), and his reasoning, as well ( to im…

I completely agree that the network can act as a useful tool for exploration. In the same way that Pinterest allows people to extend their fashion sense from their wardrobe into a larger and less expensive space (images), images from your network can also let you vicariously explore the world. When I post, I don't feel as though I'm bragging, but rather contributing to a large network of people from many different backgrounds and locations who might not have seen something like this before.

It's interesting, though, because when I was in Europe, I was frankly pissed off that all these international travellers on my tour were sharing photos exactly as they happened, whereas I chose to leave my phone at home. To me it feels very strange to post experiences as they happen when you're so far away, as though it loses its charm and uniqueness.

Re: Stop externalising your life

#93

Externalizing isn't just pictures. It's words, as well. They are often more powerful than pictures, when in the right hands. I find it a bit amusing that the OP externalized his trip in an article about how people shouldn't externalize--describing not just where he was ( Singapore! ), but how long he was there ( a whole month! ), the food ( exotic! ), sights ( there were so many! ), and his reasoning, as well ( to im…

Well, the author was making a point about the way people interact with their omnipresent tweetdeck/camera device.

He was painting a picture for the sake of making a point, not for the sake of "hey, I'm in Singapore".

Re: Stop externalising your life

#94
This is an outrageously superficial analysis of sharing... It's natural to want to share experiences. This is what we do socially every time someone at work asks "how are you?" or when a friend comes over for a beer. Calling it "robotic" is a huge generalization.

Re: Stop externalising your life

#95

The Internet is only 20 years young. In Internet years that is ancient but technology and the way people use it always goes through progressions. Early on, the Internet was largely about research and news. Then, people realized they could shop online: E-Commerce, dotcom bubble. Step 3, everyone could have their own little domain, Blogs and personal websites. Then, the Internet became the place to be entertained, vide…

> The Internet is only 20 years young

Are you confusing "the web" with The Internet?

Re: Stop externalising your life

#96
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Waiting for the pope: http://i.imgur.com/sNTmp4s.jpg In my opinion you miss a lot around you when you are constantly staring at the screen of your device. Two days ago I was sitting at a birthday party. The guy next to me constantly took pictures sending them with Watsapp. I never spoke a word to him because he was busy with his phone all the time. I'm still not sure what to think about that but I don't think I like…

I am likely preaching to the choir here, but the following is true. If you don't like this 'externalization' discussed by the author, try this:

Keep your phone off of your body more often.

Going to get a haircut, or go to the mall for an hour? Leave the phone in the car. It is really freeing; you do not realize the subtle impact of that phone/pager/digital watch constantly on the verge of maybe someone messaging you.

Try it out once or twice, especially if it sounds like it'd be tough.

Re: Stop externalising your life

#98

Externalizing isn't just pictures. It's words, as well. They are often more powerful than pictures, when in the right hands. I find it a bit amusing that the OP externalized his trip in an article about how people shouldn't externalize--describing not just where he was ( Singapore! ), but how long he was there ( a whole month! ), the food ( exotic! ), sights ( there were so many! ), and his reasoning, as well ( to im…

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Re: Stop externalising your life

#99

Externalizing isn't just pictures. It's words, as well. They are often more powerful than pictures, when in the right hands. I find it a bit amusing that the OP externalized his trip in an article about how people shouldn't externalize--describing not just where he was ( Singapore! ), but how long he was there ( a whole month! ), the food ( exotic! ), sights ( there were so many! ), and his reasoning, as well ( to im…

> I find it a bit amusing that the OP externalized his trip in an article about how people shouldn't externalize

It's even more meta than that since OP includes "Discussion over at Hacker News" link at the bottom, anticipating people discussing OP discussing OP's trip.

Part of this argument is old and recycled. I first heard it about people who would obsess about taking pictures of trips and boring everyone with slide shows when they got back, then about fathers who had a video camera at the ready on every vacation.

Re: Stop externalising your life

#100

The funny thing is, most people I know completely agree with this viewpoint. "Yep, it's tearing the fabric of society apart alright. It's creating a generation of self-interested media whores." But wait, aren't you one of them? Didn't you just post a picture of those tacos you made last night? "Yeah man, they were freaking awesome tacos. " Yes, it's a little narcissistic. Yeah, it's disruptive to your actual in-the-m…

One of the reasons that I got into photography is that I found that people around me were doing a piss-poor job of capturing those "important moments" (especially the important moments of my own life). So at many events with friends, my presence with a camera lets other people keep their phones in their pockets to enjoy the experience while I'm the one capturing it. And it's a really cool experience to upload an albu…

Very cool. That's a great example of useful and personal interaction resulting from you being the capturer of content and experiences.

But let's not blow it out of proportion. I think that for as long as cameras have existed and been in the hands of the public (which is what, over 70 years now realistically?) there have been horrible, horrible photographers. The fact that it's easy to see everyone's horrible photography now just makes it all the more evident, but that didn't stop people from losing the moment behind a lens even 50 years ago.

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