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Introducing Vdio

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"only available [...] in the US and UK" Can anybody think of any geo-tarded service that successfully rolled out in other countries later? Because as some not in the "chosen countries" I always feel that those services either a) never arrive, b) get beaten to the punch by local competitors or c) have to spend a shitload of money to conquer that market, sometimes by buying the aforementioned competitors. Also, unless…

Spotify

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Nobody is solving the problem because for many many people it isn't a problem. I subscribe to RDIO and it doesn't concern me in the slightest that i don't own any of the music i listen to. I subscribe to netflix and it doesn't concern me that i don't own the TV shows that i watch. Content exists to be enjoyed, not to be owned. For a long time, owning a copy of the content was the best way to be able to enjoy it, that…

The keyword you used is "subscribe". I also enjoy subscription music like Rdio (I previously used Zune) and movies with Netflix. But the problem is that Vdio, like iTunes or Amazon, is not subscription based. Rather you pay one-time for a lifetime (of the service) license to the content (with an exception being rentals) and access to the stream and/or DRM-laden content.

Yes, i understand that subscription services are different to "ownership" type services. But i'm saying that subscription services are the solution to the "ownership problem". you never really own digital content, so rather than demanding laws to pretend we own digital content, let's all just stop pretending. if you want to consume digital content, a subscription service is the solution.

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I hope this means Rdio is going to be a more sustainable long-term business, and not that Rdio is pivoting away from music; Rdio seems to be the best of a shaky lot when it comes to subscription music services, and I'd hate for it to get worse.

None of the streaming music companies are sustainable in the long term.

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I don't know how Netflix producing content and making it exclusive to their subscription service is a win for consumers.

I'm not saying it's a perfect model, but the alternative is having to pay $100/month for a cable subscription to watch garbage you don't want to see, or $10+ to see it in a dirty movie theater, or $15 to "buy" a movie that was $15 in the 90's for a physical DVD. Even if there are 5 Netflixes competing against each other I would rather pay 5 x $7.99 a month to watch content I actually find relevant than pay for junk I…

In that scenario most of the content you are paying for multiple times. Or you can look at it as the redundant content is free and you're paying $7.99/month for House of Cards.

Wouldn't it be better if prices for the content you want were more reasonable? Like, if you could buy a season of House of Cards for $7. And buy an old movie for $0.25?

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#45

"only available [...] in the US and UK" Can anybody think of any geo-tarded service that successfully rolled out in other countries later? Because as some not in the "chosen countries" I always feel that those services either a) never arrive, b) get beaten to the punch by local competitors or c) have to spend a shitload of money to conquer that market, sometimes by buying the aforementioned competitors. Also, unless…

RE: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5479848

I'd love to think that software innovations would trickle down into larger markets, across borders, and into lower brackets of economic prosperity, but things like this just really frustrate me.

Canada is often treated like shit in terms of access to marketplaces and entertainment services online, and it needs to stop soon. USA, we are your closest partner, and we want to integrate with you to create and consume together. Our television and our theaters are full of american content, but our web is so fragmented in that respect. The content we can access on the tube is often blocked online.

What is it going to take to break these barriers?

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#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The keyword you used is "subscribe". I also enjoy subscription music like Rdio (I previously used Zune) and movies with Netflix. But the problem is that Vdio, like iTunes or Amazon, is not subscription based. Rather you pay one-time for a lifetime (of the service) license to the content (with an exception being rentals) and access to the stream and/or DRM-laden content.

Yes, i understand that subscription services are different to "ownership" type services. But i'm saying that subscription services are the solution to the "ownership problem". you never really own digital content, so rather than demanding laws to pretend we own digital content, let's all just stop pretending. if you want to consume digital content, a subscription service is the solution.

I don't listen to very much music, do Rdio and Spotify get the new albums as soon as they are released? With movies and TV there is usually a very long waiting period before they appear on Netflix and Amazon Prime. I'm not sure what a subscription service would cost that had all of the newly released movies but I'm pretty sure it's more than any person would be willing to spend.

Re: Introducing Vdio

#47

"only available [...] in the US and UK" Can anybody think of any geo-tarded service that successfully rolled out in other countries later? Because as some not in the "chosen countries" I always feel that those services either a) never arrive, b) get beaten to the punch by local competitors or c) have to spend a shitload of money to conquer that market, sometimes by buying the aforementioned competitors. Also, unless…

RE: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5479848 I'd love to think that software innovations would trickle down into larger markets, across borders, and into lower brackets of economic prosperity, but things like this just really frustrate me. Canada is often treated like shit in terms of access to marketplaces and entertainment services online, and it needs to stop soon. USA, we are your closest partner, and we want…

Is there any chance that Canada is also responsible in this? I ask because of the very strict CRTC regulations which dictate how much foreign content can be served to Canadians.

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#48

"only available [...] in the US and UK" Can anybody think of any geo-tarded service that successfully rolled out in other countries later? Because as some not in the "chosen countries" I always feel that those services either a) never arrive, b) get beaten to the punch by local competitors or c) have to spend a shitload of money to conquer that market, sometimes by buying the aforementioned competitors. Also, unless…

> Can anybody think of any geo-tarded service that successfully rolled out in other countries later?

Rdio, iTunes Music Store, iTunes Movie/TV Store, Netflix, Amazon's digital services, etc were all unavailable in Canada on launch and successfully rolled out later on.

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RE: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5479848 I'd love to think that software innovations would trickle down into larger markets, across borders, and into lower brackets of economic prosperity, but things like this just really frustrate me. Canada is often treated like shit in terms of access to marketplaces and entertainment services online, and it needs to stop soon. USA, we are your closest partner, and we want…

Is there any chance that Canada is also responsible in this? I ask because of the very strict CRTC regulations which dictate how much foreign content can be served to Canadians.

It has nothing to do with the CRTC and everything to do with licensing agreements and the intransigence of the Canadian rights holders.

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How much does it cost to rent?

For the ones I've seen, $3-5, which is reasonable enough

Thats not bad. I can't wait to try this tonight. If I can rent out a whole season of some show for 3-5, then we have something.
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