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Introducing Vdio

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Re: Introducing Vdio

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

deltaqueue wrote: post #26

Rant ahead... Am I the only one dissatisfied with the way media delivery has played out the past couple of years? We started with a rapidly developing delivery system (the internet) and content makers who couldn't see the value in capitalizing on this sales channel by making movies, TV shows, and songs available to consumers at reasonable prices (read: less than physical media costs), which led to piracy, global diss…

I don't know how Netflix producing content and making it exclusive to their subscription service is a win for consumers.

Re: Introducing Vdio

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Post by ThomPete »

tptacek wrote: post #3

I hope this means Rdio is going to be a more sustainable long-term business, and not that Rdio is pivoting away from music; Rdio seems to be the best of a shaky lot when it comes to subscription music services, and I'd hate for it to get worse.

Its pretty hard to beat Spotify unless you have some specific taste in music they dont cover well. But overall I have a hard time seing a better service than theirs.

It just works, is fast and has a large db of content.

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Post by wmf »

nickconfer wrote: post #12

The problem that no one is solving is ownership. If I pay $15 for movie from vdio, what happens if that company goes away? Why can't I switch my collection from iTunes to amazon, etc... Ultimetly that is the top reason I avoid buying digital content. It's a frustrating issue, and legislation should be passed to guarantee consumer protection on their digital goods.

UltraViolet solves this problem, but it's only being embraced by marginal services. (Vudu and Flixster? Sorry, never heard of them.)

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Post by deltaqueue »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #31
deltaqueue wrote: post #26

Rant ahead... Am I the only one dissatisfied with the way media delivery has played out the past couple of years? We started with a rapidly developing delivery system (the internet) and content makers who couldn't see the value in capitalizing on this sales channel by making movies, TV shows, and songs available to consumers at reasonable prices (read: less than physical media costs), which led to piracy, global diss…

I don't know how Netflix producing content and making it exclusive to their subscription service is a win for consumers.

I'm not saying it's a perfect model, but the alternative is having to pay $100/month for a cable subscription to watch garbage you don't want to see, or $10+ to see it in a dirty movie theater, or $15 to "buy" a movie that was $15 in the 90's for a physical DVD. Even if there are 5 Netflixes competing against each other I would rather pay 5 x $7.99 a month to watch content I actually find relevant than pay for junk I don't use.

If anything, merging content with distribution sparks competition to produce content at reasonable prices. Netflix has also resorted to releasing content in a more enjoyable manner (all at once vs. weekly with commercials).

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Post by glomph »

tptacek wrote: post #3

I hope this means Rdio is going to be a more sustainable long-term business, and not that Rdio is pivoting away from music; Rdio seems to be the best of a shaky lot when it comes to subscription music services, and I'd hate for it to get worse.

Can I ask why you used the word pivoting instead of moving? To pivot is to swing around a fixed point. What is the fixed point in this context?

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Post by onemorepassword »

"only available [...] in the US and UK"

Can anybody think of any geo-tarded service that successfully rolled out in other countries later?

Because as some not in the "chosen countries" I always feel that those services either a) never arrive, b) get beaten to the punch by local competitors or c) have to spend a shitload of money to conquer that market, sometimes by buying the aforementioned competitors.

Also, unless the likes of Google or Apple are behind it, option a seems to be the most common scenario. Not to mention the fact that it fosters a culture where everyone and their grandmother knows how to pirate content.

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Post by isaacwaller »

onemorepassword wrote: post #36

"only available [...] in the US and UK" Can anybody think of any geo-tarded service that successfully rolled out in other countries later? Because as some not in the "chosen countries" I always feel that those services either a) never arrive, b) get beaten to the punch by local competitors or c) have to spend a shitload of money to conquer that market, sometimes by buying the aforementioned competitors. Also, unless…

Netflix was originally only available in the US but came to Canada later

Re: Introducing Vdio

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Post by ricardobeat »

deltaqueue wrote: post #34
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how Netflix producing content and making it exclusive to their subscription service is a win for consumers.

I'm not saying it's a perfect model, but the alternative is having to pay $100/month for a cable subscription to watch garbage you don't want to see, or $10+ to see it in a dirty movie theater, or $15 to "buy" a movie that was $15 in the 90's for a physical DVD. Even if there are 5 Netflixes competing against each other I would rather pay 5 x $7.99 a month to watch content I actually find relevant than pay for junk I…

> Even if there are 5 Netflixes competing against each other [producing their own content] I would rather pay 5 x $7.99 a month

You've just described cable. If those subscriptions start to come in packages we're back to square one.

Re: Introducing Vdio

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Post by ricardobeat »

onemorepassword wrote: post #36

"only available [...] in the US and UK" Can anybody think of any geo-tarded service that successfully rolled out in other countries later? Because as some not in the "chosen countries" I always feel that those services either a) never arrive, b) get beaten to the punch by local competitors or c) have to spend a shitload of money to conquer that market, sometimes by buying the aforementioned competitors. Also, unless…

Netflix, Amazon, iTunes match, Rdio all took a while to come to Brazil and are doing great. Still waiting for Amazon Instant.

Re: Introducing Vdio

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Post by balanceiskey15 »

onemorepassword wrote: post #36

"only available [...] in the US and UK" Can anybody think of any geo-tarded service that successfully rolled out in other countries later? Because as some not in the "chosen countries" I always feel that those services either a) never arrive, b) get beaten to the punch by local competitors or c) have to spend a shitload of money to conquer that market, sometimes by buying the aforementioned competitors. Also, unless…

Spotify comes to mind. Facebook started out even more locally restricted.
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