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Re: Dear HN "Who's Hiring" responders

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Post by mseebach »

xiaoma wrote: post #200
mseebach wrote: post #198

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Given that this is a brand new thing, it sounds a lot like they are failing you massively on this bit of the promise - at the very least, and given you're paying for this, it's not FB and Google that failed to show up - it's Hack Reactor that failed to make them show up: > WE’VE GOT CONNECTIONS > Breaking into the tech industry can be hard on your own. We’ll help you craft a portfolio, guide you through practice inte…

Let's stop the misunderstanding right here. They've done a fantastic job, both in terms of teaching and connections. 100% of the recently graduated first cohort is hired. Their connections have brought top-rate speakers from Heroku, Pinterest, Twitter, TapJoy, Coursera and others and the connections did get more companies in the door than we have graduating students. That list just doesn't include some companies that…

I wish you all the best, but all I'm saying is that it's a strange world where McKinsey are progressive (if ever there was an employer famous for blindly hiring high-GPA grads) and Google and Facebook are conservative.

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Post by 4nil »

mootothemax wrote: post #151
vacri wrote: post #142

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Seriously, try hiring someone, the influx of irrelevant applicants and those who won't take even thirty seconds to read your ad is truly dispiriting. The average time of inspection of a resume is 15 seconds, so it seems it's a two-way street.

The average time of inspection of a resume is 15 seconds, so it seems it's a two-way street. Heh, quite. Although from my experience, receiving a hundred CVs featuring C# application development alone when you've requested PHP will have a significant effect on the average reading time ;)

Not too sure how many C# devs would wanna move over to PHP but that doesnt mean that they cant.. I seriously believe hiring should be language agnostic and you should hire a good programmer.. if you hire the right person he can adopt to any framework/language..

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Post by aurelianito »

bmj wrote: post #169
aurelianito wrote: post #109

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I thought the same until I actually worked with one. This guy can build things in a week that a group of 5 competent programmers will do in a month.

But, as `sybhn said, did that guy call himself a rock star? My manager is very similar--his mind works about twice as fast as mine, and he's very productive. He'd never, ever call himself a "rock star" though.

He will not call himself a rockstar but he is quite aware of his skill.

Re: Dear HN "Who's Hiring" responders

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Post by aurelianito »

dyno12345 wrote: post #183
aurelianito wrote: post #109

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I thought the same until I actually worked with one. This guy can build things in a week that a group of 5 competent programmers will do in a month.

And yet he doesn't get paid proportional to that ratio. He probably makes 20% more.

Nop. He is one of the company founders and he is probably getting a lot of money out of his job.

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Post by thisone »

lsiebert wrote: post #108
ig1 wrote: post #51

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I'm not familiar with that stat but it's perfectly believable. Many people are clearly getting by with a mixture of memorization and trial-and-error rather than understanding. I think of those who understand algorithmic reasoning (i.e. understand loops, assignment, etc.) they also fall into two categories. Those who can understand more abstract programming concepts (indirect referencing, recursion) and those who can'…

Recursion isn't hard, it's just not taught correctly. It's fairly easy to break it down into rules. Because they are shown examples, instead of taught how, people memorize how to do stuff, instead of learning it from principles. Take the classic question, recursively reverse a linked list. You will see a lot of people making false starts, or trying to reverse the list in some way like they would reverse an array, or…

I've always thought of reversing a linked list in a visual way.

In my mind, a link list is a bunch of nodes with arrows pointing right. To reverse the list, all I need to do is point the arrows to the left.

6(ish) lines of code later, and I've got a recursive reverse method.

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Post by anthonyb »

asveikau wrote: post #197
anthonyb wrote: post #158

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Essentially every recruiter message that I've received on LinkedIn follows one of two patterns: a) Hello, you do Python, do you want a job? (with no position details, salary, reason to join, etc.) b) a) followed by a clumsy attempt to fish details of my contacts (I don't connect with recruiters). So, er, yeah - "Ha ha, profession!"

I don't doubt the abundance of bad behaviors. I was just doing a literal parse of your logic.

There actually really wasn't any logic in that statement.

I'm not saying "I have this message from a recruiter, therefore all recruiters are scum." It's a reminder.

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Post by xtracto »

anthonyb wrote: post #158
asveikau wrote: post #149

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I had a good laugh at that quote, but now I'm thinking: is it legit to cite one or more persons doing their job poorly to dismiss the entire profession? Do you keep around bad code to remind you why you don't talk to programmers? Examples of quack medicine to remind you why you don't talk to doctors?

Essentially every recruiter message that I've received on LinkedIn follows one of two patterns: a) Hello, you do Python, do you want a job? (with no position details, salary, reason to join, etc.) b) a) followed by a clumsy attempt to fish details of my contacts (I don't connect with recruiters). So, er, yeah - "Ha ha, profession!"

Interesting,

In LinkedIn I've been contacted by recruiters from Amazon, Google, Toshiba and Voyer International and all of them have been quite professional.

Re: Dear HN "Who's Hiring" responders

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Post by tgalvin »

Whenever I send a "cold" email trying to illicit some type of response that is good for me, I like to add some product/company thoughts and ideas. First, it shows that you've spent a bit of time thinking about the company. Second, you've delivered value to that person and create a situation where the person feels they SHOULD respond to you.

Re: Dear HN "Who's Hiring" responders

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Post by btilly »

tzaman wrote: post #174
btilly wrote: post #123

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...and was amazed how most of them feel comfortable being completely ignorant of new technologies/libraries/frameworks/best practices/whatever. I don't know how to judge that comment. It is true that if you take anyone who is competent and ask them to teach you something that they learned in the last year, they should be able to come up with something. If not, then you've likely got "1 year of experience, 15 times".…

From what you have written I can see you don't suck (I'd need to meet you and see some of your code to actually assess you're good :). You see, you used words like "Bayesian", "Promises". Guys that I was writing about not only don't know what promises are, they don't give a fuck either. A rockstar (in my book, at least) would hear about them and google them as soon as possible. So at the end of the day, it's not real…

The Bayesian stuff that I'm going through has zero pretensions to being the latest and greatest.

I only know "Promises" because I saw that on HN recently. However the concept behind JavaScript promises is one that I've seen before (I first saw it buried in a sideways way inside of http://search.cpan.org/~karasik/IO-Lambda/) and the name "promises" already has a spot reserved in my brain for their use in infinite streams. Therefore if someone mentions JavaScript promises to me again in 6 months I'll draw a blank.

There are some code samples linked in the articles in http://elem.com/~btilly/ab-testing-multiple-looks/index.html if you want to look. I wasn't writing that code for anyone except myself, so it isn't particularly pretty. (It did get the job done though.)

Re: Dear HN "Who's Hiring" responders

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Post by cunac »

calinet6 wrote: post #23
niggler wrote: post #20

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It is absolutely a hirers' market if the market is for a low-level coder. Many people, especially coming from an engineering background, have the requisite programming and computer science experience to do what you need. It's a hirees' market at the rockstar level, as always.

Rockstars are a myth. So are low-level engineers who "know what they're doing." Hire smart people who can learn new things instead of resume bullet points and/or mythological creatures.

if you spend enough time in industry hopefully you will cross path with some "mythological creatures"
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