We call ourselves innovators, but most of us are really just iterators

Post by mpyne » Tue, Apr 02, 2013, 7:28 PM UTC

jiggy2011 wrote: post #83

cllns wrote: post #24

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Maybe. This is a tough point. The 'system' obviously sucks but I don't want to skirt personal responsibility. It's the upper-middle class straight white cisgendered male's fault if he doesn't take the time to learn about his privilege. He has the resources, but chooses to ignore it. (Note: I'm not saying the person from the article necessarily fits this description; I'm speaking more generally)

Interestingly people who are upper middle class and devote time and energy to the cause of the poor are often disparaged for that. Terms like "champagne socialist" or "bleeding heart liberal" are invoked. Perhaps it is seen as patronising to the poor because it makes the implication that the poor need the help of upper middle class white people to help them out of their problems?

Post by parnas » Tue, Apr 02, 2013, 7:43 PM UTC

jzellis wrote: post #23

gmu3 wrote: post #14

I feel like the author somewhat contradicts himself when he implies the poor ghetto types will never be innovators but says the rest of us are all blinded from the "very real problems that the rest of humanity faces." If you really felt that way, wouldn't the ghetto types have a big advantage if they can get over their resource problems.

I apologize if I implied that poor people will never be innovators, that wasn't my intention. I meant to suggest that those of us who already have these skills share them with people who don't...including, I probably should have explicitly said, teaching them those skills.

Post by blhack » Tue, Apr 02, 2013, 7:46 PM UTC

ja27 wrote: post #56

orangethirty wrote: post #37

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But they do. Let me explain. I grew up in a barrio , which is a latin ghetto. Junked cars in front lawns, domestic disturbances every night, shootings, drugs, all of that stuff. Every kid in there made money by pure hustle. There were no jobs available for any of us. Some kids cut hair (then went on to become barbers), others worked on cars, but most sold drugs. There were startups, but all were of the illegal variet…

Those jobs are gone these days. I grew up mostly in an upper middle class neighborhood, but for high school, we were bussed to a school in a more lower class area. There were a lot more trailer parks in the area and the auto body program at my high school was pretty popular. Just last week I was driving through that area and saw business after business with signs outside looking to hire CNC machinists, HVAC installer…

Post by EvanKelly » Tue, Apr 02, 2013, 7:49 PM UTC

enraged_camel wrote: post #116

duaneb wrote: post #103

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Let's stop with this this 'real hacker' bullshit. There's nothing wrong with being motivated by wealth; gates was and now he's the largest charity on the planet.

To me, there is little difference between the terms "real hacker" and "real American." Both exist for one purpose: to make the elitist feel good about themselves while giving them a chance to look down on plebes.

Post by freshhawk » Tue, Apr 02, 2013, 7:53 PM UTC

theorique wrote: post #30

calinet6 wrote: post #18

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Correction: zero tolerance for a system they've spent their entire lives within that never taught them the right way to think about their position in society.

the right way to think about their position in society. What is "the right way" for a person to think about his position in society? Is there only one correct point of view?