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Modafinil Is Wall Street’s New Drug of Choice

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Re: Modafinil Is Wall Street’s New Drug of Choice

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I am very interested of opinions on these boards for it. My intuition is there is no free lunch - if this were the optimal brain wiring, we'd be there already. Is it the inevitable crash or sleep deprivation? I haven't done any hard research on the topic, so I am interested in first hand observations. We are the target audience of the article, even if the link title doesn't suggest it.

Re: Modafinil Is Wall Street’s New Drug of Choice

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Gwern has an amazing writeup of Modafinil, including his own (DIY "double" blind-trial) experience, effects, etc:

http://www.gwern.net/Modafinil

Highly recommended for anyone even slightly interested in the workings of Modafinil. His own experiences are described in the most detail on this page:

http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#modafinil

Re: Modafinil Is Wall Street’s New Drug of Choice

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I am very interested of opinions on these boards for it. My intuition is there is no free lunch - if this were the optimal brain wiring, we'd be there already. Is it the inevitable crash or sleep deprivation? I haven't done any hard research on the topic, so I am interested in first hand observations. We are the target audience of the article, even if the link title doesn't suggest it.

Depression for me. I've used it multiple times in law school and afterwards. I stopped because for a couple days afterwards I would get seriously depressed.

Re: Modafinil Is Wall Street’s New Drug of Choice

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post #4

Gwern has an amazing writeup of Modafinil, including his own (DIY "double" blind-trial) experience, effects, etc: http://www.gwern.net/Modafinil Highly recommended for anyone even slightly interested in the workings of Modafinil. His own experiences are described in the most detail on this page: http://www.gwern.net/Nootropics#modafinil

There goes my night. That site is like a black hole.

Re: Modafinil Is Wall Street’s New Drug of Choice

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For me, it was a pretty euphoric high and short term memory boost the first time. With repeated use, the effects diminished alot. I am much more effective/productive/clever/creative without it, though the drug makes it feel like im better at all those thing. (I was prescribed it long ago)

Re: Modafinil Is Wall Street’s New Drug of Choice

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I am very interested of opinions on these boards for it. My intuition is there is no free lunch - if this were the optimal brain wiring, we'd be there already. Is it the inevitable crash or sleep deprivation? I haven't done any hard research on the topic, so I am interested in first hand observations. We are the target audience of the article, even if the link title doesn't suggest it.

It's quite possible the brain isn't optimised for the current availability of nutrients. Judging by the number of overweight people walking around it seems likely that evolution has selected for efficiency rather than performance. Given that our gene pool hasn't changed much in 250,000 years a little chemical nudge in the right direction is probably the way to go.

Re: Modafinil Is Wall Street’s New Drug of Choice

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I am very interested of opinions on these boards for it. My intuition is there is no free lunch - if this were the optimal brain wiring, we'd be there already. Is it the inevitable crash or sleep deprivation? I haven't done any hard research on the topic, so I am interested in first hand observations. We are the target audience of the article, even if the link title doesn't suggest it.

Depression for me. I've used it multiple times in law school and afterwards. I stopped because for a couple days afterwards I would get seriously depressed.

Were you sleeping less when using the pills?

Re: Modafinil Is Wall Street’s New Drug of Choice

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I am very interested of opinions on these boards for it. My intuition is there is no free lunch - if this were the optimal brain wiring, we'd be there already. Is it the inevitable crash or sleep deprivation? I haven't done any hard research on the topic, so I am interested in first hand observations. We are the target audience of the article, even if the link title doesn't suggest it.

Well the no free lunch theory is I think wrong, we are vastly better off with modern medicines. We are already getting free lunches of longer and heather lives.

My experience, obviously not scientific, with modafinil is mild mania, grumpiness/quick to anger (What I think is the tiredness coming through), increase concentration and attentiveness to a task. My intelligence goes down. Mixed with alcohol it can cause blackouts (It has a long half life so this can be a day or so later). Hard to sleep on. Euphoric enough to take recreationally.

Listening to other people they have different effects.

For me I'm not sure it's a effective drug. Because it's said long term you can build up tolerance I've always only done it one pill per week for small projects, so maybe doing it on a regular schedule it might stop some of the above negatives.

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