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What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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I never said that it's easy . We both know that it's not "easy" to get acq-hired for $30 million. It's also not easy to win the Powerball, even if any idiot has a chance. It is, however, a sign of something wrong in the economy. When a $6-million-per-engineer acq-hire (the team, not the product, is being bought) is going down, the company is paying about 50 years of an engineer's salary for an employment relationship…

You're discounting the multiplicative value of the team. A lone wolf programmer, even if he/she is an ace, is pretty limited. An entire team - spanning the entire stack from design, backend, frontend, etc, is many times more powerful than its individual constituent employees. High-performing teams are also extremely rare, and extremely hard to build. It's not hard to build a team that can get its shit together long e…

Only 2 of the 5 members of the team are joining Yahoo though. That's not a team.

Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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"I am seriously considering considering going into business as an "unfuck your culture" consultant." After only six months and two gigs as a contract software engineer, I'm thinking about this too. So far I'm appalled at the state of play in the small software houses I've seen.

Many years ago I watched a tv documentary (probably BBC with the Open University) about business consultants. There was a small - medium engineering company. These firms tend to be split between white collar office and management work, and blue collar shop floor work. The consultant went in, had a bit of a chat with the management, and then went onto the shop floor. After a bit of resistance he got a lot of great inf…

If you find a link to that documentary I'd love to see it.

Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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Many years ago I watched a tv documentary (probably BBC with the Open University) about business consultants. There was a small - medium engineering company. These firms tend to be split between white collar office and management work, and blue collar shop floor work. The consultant went in, had a bit of a chat with the management, and then went onto the shop floor. After a bit of resistance he got a lot of great inf…

If you find a link to that documentary I'd love to see it.

I'd love to watch it again. Unfortunately it was years ago and I keep failing to find it. But if I do I'll post links here.

Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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If you find a link to that documentary I'd love to see it.

I'd love to watch it again. Unfortunately it was years ago and I keep failing to find it. But if I do I'll post links here.

I hate it when that happens to me! I've had a quick google and nothing jumped out.

Thanks.

Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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This snot-nosed brat is a mere 27 years old, and I would say that if you could have grabbed him for $30 million it would be worth it: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1630529_138070...

Hahaha. Touché . To be fair, however, I think we'd all agree that his accomplishments by that point were of a significantly higher caliber.

Well give that 17 year old kid another ten years and we'll see! : )

Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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> As an example, most religions folks were indoctrinated into their religion. I don't know anyone who grew up without any kind of religion shoveled at them as a kid, only to choose one independently as an adult. It is a fair question: Are you pro state/government/communism/socialism because you chose to believe this way or because the thoughts were shoveled into your head? Can you remove yourself from your mind far e…

Attended private and public schools (nearly a 50/50 split). Private school was not quite religious but had a Christian church next as part of the campus and some of our teachers were the priests. Became an atheist somewhere in college. Highly entrepreneurial family. Have been an entrepreneur myself since probably high school. Started and ran half a dozen businesses with my own money. Also worked in industry (employee…

I was more refering to where you grew up, or other things that might be correlated to setting the groundstones for a persons political outlook/philosophy. Sorry for not being specific.

Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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Maybe it's not just about talent, you could certainly hire amazing talent for a lot less than $30 million. I imagine this kid will disappear into Yahoo and emerge again in 3 years time more mature and having been groomed for a leadership role by Mayer etc. He will be the "lead developer" for some new product they have spent $serious_R&D_budget on and will make another promotional video where he talks in a charming Br…

I'm an old fart (29) and don't have a British accent, but I'll do the three-year CEO-protege thing for a mere $10 million and kick it's ass (as long as you listen to me; if not, then you're wasting money). Bidding war's on! (If you say $9.99 million, then you are a fucking asshole.)

If you had the connections that this guy (and Mayer, and Sandberg, and Zuckerberg, and...) has, you wouldn't need to auction yourself. That's how the system prefers to work.

Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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"I am seriously considering considering going into business as an "unfuck your culture" consultant." After only six months and two gigs as a contract software engineer, I'm thinking about this too. So far I'm appalled at the state of play in the small software houses I've seen.

Many years ago I watched a tv documentary (probably BBC with the Open University) about business consultants. There was a small - medium engineering company. These firms tend to be split between white collar office and management work, and blue collar shop floor work. The consultant went in, had a bit of a chat with the management, and then went onto the shop floor. After a bit of resistance he got a lot of great inf…

What is the story about the car factory worker and the license plate bag? Google is not helping.

Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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If those PhD are really so smart, they should have had the foresight to be born to Morgan Stanley executives, like the Summly kid.

Because I'm feeling a bit (just a tiny bit, I feel I'm almost beyond that) envious I almost want to celebrate your comment. Although there is a lot of true into this we have to admit that even kids born into riches are not that much more likely to be a world success. Because unless you have the will/desire to succeed you probably won't get that far. (Going to an ivy league school and working a nice cushy job is not e…

we have to admit that even kids born into riches are not that much more likely to be a world success.

They are MUCH less likely to wind up bleeding out on a streetcorner in the Tenderloin or creaking along on subsistence wages. It's rarely about "world success."

Re: What's Actually Wrong with Yahoo's Purchase of Summly

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Wait a second. Can the founder even code?

It would be particularly impressive if he had written the backend and then hired his team for frontend and design.

If all he had was an idea, this is really nothing to marvel at, especially on HN. Interesting why Yahoo chose to buy him and his team. PR? Maybe.

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