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Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

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Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

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Slightly relevant: If you're interested in discovering OpenStack, you should check out devstack[1]. It's a bash script that (git) pulls different projects of openstack into a machine and install them. The script itself is very readable, thoroughly commented, on purpose. You're encouraged to read it while the whole thing installs (which can take several minutes). Feel free to launch it inside of a VM (preferably runni…

how does this compare to puppet?

Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

#32

Slightly relevant: If you're interested in discovering OpenStack, you should check out devstack[1]. It's a bash script that (git) pulls different projects of openstack into a machine and install them. The script itself is very readable, thoroughly commented, on purpose. You're encouraged to read it while the whole thing installs (which can take several minutes). Feel free to launch it inside of a VM (preferably runni…

how does this compare to puppet?

devstack is a shell script.

It sets up openstack from source, tracking master.

It is what developers of openstack use to setup dev environments, run automated testing, ... There are also puppet and chef recipes that use packages (which is recommended for production deploys)

Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

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post #25

I hate cloud headlines. What's the hypervisor? VMWare is a hypervisor (ESX) and management applications (vCenter/vSphere, vCloud Director, etc). Openstack is only the management applications. And VMWare contributes the most interesting part of OpenStack, anyway, which is the virtual networking based on Nicira's OpenFlow. My personal experience with OpenStack (admittedly late Diablo release timeframe) was that it was…

The Diablo version was the first version that really combined the projects. Before Diablo each system had its own auth/user system, api style, ...

We've come a long way in 2 years :) Redhat (EPEL/Fedora) and Ubuntu now have built-in packages that are much more solid.

That said, the way to think about OpenStack is like you think about the linux kernel. Most people want a distro, not raw source to setup their environments. Over the last couple years we've seen real advances in distros.

Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

#34

Slightly relevant: If you're interested in discovering OpenStack, you should check out devstack[1]. It's a bash script that (git) pulls different projects of openstack into a machine and install them. The script itself is very readable, thoroughly commented, on purpose. You're encouraged to read it while the whole thing installs (which can take several minutes). Feel free to launch it inside of a VM (preferably runni…

It looks to me like both PayPal and HP Cloud are using http://saltstack.com/ to manage their OpenStack clusters.

Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

#35

Slightly relevant: If you're interested in discovering OpenStack, you should check out devstack[1]. It's a bash script that (git) pulls different projects of openstack into a machine and install them. The script itself is very readable, thoroughly commented, on purpose. You're encouraged to read it while the whole thing installs (which can take several minutes). Feel free to launch it inside of a VM (preferably runni…

Thanks. Will definitely check it out.

Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

#36
post #25

I hate cloud headlines. What's the hypervisor? VMWare is a hypervisor (ESX) and management applications (vCenter/vSphere, vCloud Director, etc). Openstack is only the management applications. And VMWare contributes the most interesting part of OpenStack, anyway, which is the virtual networking based on Nicira's OpenFlow. My personal experience with OpenStack (admittedly late Diablo release timeframe) was that it was…

The Diablo version was the first version that really combined the projects. Before Diablo each system had its own auth/user system, api style, ... We've come a long way in 2 years :) Redhat (EPEL/Fedora) and Ubuntu now have built-in packages that are much more solid. That said, the way to think about OpenStack is like you think about the linux kernel. Most people want a distro, not raw source to setup their environme…

I've kept up a little on OpenStack since then and know people that work with the technology. I'm sure the keystone integrated auth system (or whatever it's called now) really improved things, and it seems like people are making really progress with pushbutton deployments using the usual config/orchestration suspects. Congrats!

That said I know more people would would be content to manage ESX with ovftool or some homebrew solution w/ the soap api than I do who would be willing to use the linux kernel without the usual userspace tools.

Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

#37
post #25

I hate cloud headlines. What's the hypervisor? VMWare is a hypervisor (ESX) and management applications (vCenter/vSphere, vCloud Director, etc). Openstack is only the management applications. And VMWare contributes the most interesting part of OpenStack, anyway, which is the virtual networking based on Nicira's OpenFlow. My personal experience with OpenStack (admittedly late Diablo release timeframe) was that it was…

>What's the hypervisor?

OpenStack supports multiple hypervisors. They are implemented as drivers - and are in this part of the OpenStack codebase:

https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/nova/virt/

See my slides from a talk I did yesterday.

https://github.com/sc68cal/openstack-theory-and-practice-pre...

Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

#38

Slightly relevant: If you're interested in discovering OpenStack, you should check out devstack[1]. It's a bash script that (git) pulls different projects of openstack into a machine and install them. The script itself is very readable, thoroughly commented, on purpose. You're encouraged to read it while the whole thing installs (which can take several minutes). Feel free to launch it inside of a VM (preferably runni…

You can also use Vagrant+Devstack[1] to get started even quicker.

https://github.com/bcwaldon/vagrant_devstack

Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

#39
post #37
post #25

I hate cloud headlines. What's the hypervisor? VMWare is a hypervisor (ESX) and management applications (vCenter/vSphere, vCloud Director, etc). Openstack is only the management applications. And VMWare contributes the most interesting part of OpenStack, anyway, which is the virtual networking based on Nicira's OpenFlow. My personal experience with OpenStack (admittedly late Diablo release timeframe) was that it was…

>What's the hypervisor? OpenStack supports multiple hypervisors. They are implemented as drivers - and are in this part of the OpenStack codebase: https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/nova/virt/ See my slides from a talk I did yesterday. https://github.com/sc68cal/openstack-theory-and-practice-pre...

I know this, I'm asking which one of the supported hypervisors Paypal planned on using in their deployment.

Re: Paypal To Drop VMware From 80,000 Servers and Replace It With OpenStack

#40

Slightly relevant: If you're interested in discovering OpenStack, you should check out devstack[1]. It's a bash script that (git) pulls different projects of openstack into a machine and install them. The script itself is very readable, thoroughly commented, on purpose. You're encouraged to read it while the whole thing installs (which can take several minutes). Feel free to launch it inside of a VM (preferably runni…

how does this compare to puppet?

It's an alternative to puppet. Biggest difference is built-in remote execution.
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