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Re: 22 and no life

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Your lack of ability to google or search on your own is a bit worrisome, but I spent a few minutes doing your work for you. =) There 18k+ open source repos on github for c#: https://github.com/search?l=C%23&q=c&type=Repositori... There are 44k+ open source repos on github for java: https://github.com/search?l=Java&q=c&type=Repositori... I'm not even gonna bother for Asp.Net. Now, for some real advice. 'Open Source' a…

I think: By saying "appropriate" he wasn't really asking how to find open source projects in his language of choice, but how to know which ones will eventually get him noticed, or how to pick the open source project that seems to have meaning to other people, etc. It appears that the op may have had a stroke of good luck by picking the perfect OS projects. It would be a bummer to extend yourself in an area that nobod…

What's important is getting noticed by whoever you collaborate with. That helps you form a network. It doesn't have to be a high profile project it just has to help you form a network of friends who know you and can vouch for your work.

Re: 22 and no life

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> You can make $16/hr picking tomatoes or as a barista or $25 an hour shuffling stuff around at a building site. These figures sound good compared to US min. wages, but given the (substantially) increased cost of living I'm not sure this is good advice.

It's expensive but it's workable, and you can still save money. The minimum wage is federal, so you get paid the same as a barista in Sydney as you do in regional Australia. Also, I suggested it because the working holiday visa is available. I'm not sure if there any other countries which even offer such an option to Americans.

New Zealand offers a similar Visa, but you'll be better off in Australia if you want to make money.

Re: 22 and no life

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post #72

I don't have a degree and I consider myself pretty successful. I'm no Zuckerberg but I haven't been unemployed since 18 (I'm 26). And, like others who've posted, I have to beat recruiters off with a stick. There is a lot of work out there if you have a good online presence. Those are my credentials, now here's my advice: build a portfolio. And I don't mean a portfolio site or physical portfolio per se (though that wo…

Udacity is another great online learning tool for your list. It's extremely approachable and I really appreciate the structure of each course. http://www.udacity.com

Added to my list, with attribution. If you're not cool with that I'll remove it. Thanks!

Re: 22 and no life

#125
post #13

Work anywhere you can until you can save up about $5000. Then go to Australia on the working holiday visa. You can make $16/hr picking tomatoes or as a barista or $25 an hour shuffling stuff around at a building site. Save $20K while enjoying life, then move to California and do a 2 year degree at a community college for $36 per credit. Get good grades then transfer to a UC to complete a bachelor's at in state tuitio…

I like the Australia idea, but I'd save up $10k before departing. Relocating to another country is expensive.

I suggest to find some freelance programming jobs online. He could make some money writing articles about the stock market for SeekingAlpha.com.

In terms of education, I think he should do some courses with Coursera or one of the other free online institutions.

Re: 22 and no life

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It helps to have specific goals. "To just be ok for once" sounds nice, but what exactly does that mean to you? It's much easier to make a plan for yourself when you have specific goals.

You might try thinking out -- and writing down -- specifically what sort of circumstances you think would help you to feel "ok." An apartment? A steady, stable job? A car? A group of reliable friends? You don't need a perfect answer, just try to flesh out some basic details.

Once you know where you want to be in life, you can start taking determined action to change your current circumstances. Where do you want to be ten years from today? Five years? Try to answer those questions, then work back to today, determining the requirements at each step.

So, if you have as your goal getting a job at $50k per year working as a web developer at a small to medium sized company, starting x years from today, then your requirements might be:

Living in a city with sufficient job opportunities in the IT industry; specific programming skills; interpersonal skills for working in an office environment; personal and professional references; a resume; some relevant work experience; basic interviewing skills; a permanent address; reliable transportation; food in your stomach; some reasonable clothes; and a few friends and a healthy way to relax during your downtime.

Take each of those criteria, compare to where you are now, figure out specifically what you can do to improve your circumstances, and take action!

Having it all written out can work wonders for your motivation and ability to stay on track. You can also include some goalposts in your plan with specific timeframes so that you can periodically remind yourself that you're making progress -- that can really help you make it through when things get difficult, which they sometimes will.

It sounds like right now you need to get traction and put some money in your pocket, and some more in the bank. That means you'll want to get your expenses down as low as possible and save as much of your income as you can. You may have to work some unpleasant jobs to get yourself started, but remember that they're not permanent, and stay focused on your goals.

I hope this was of some use for you. Good luck!

Re: 22 and no life

#127
Don't give up! There will always be hope until you yourself abandon it. Don't ever be ashamed about not having a degree; I'm ashamed that I've learned more about programming from a few good books than my overpriced education! You may not think that you have much, but you've already been given everything you need to succeed in life. Don't be ashamed of what you don't know, be eager to learn it. Don't expect anyone but you to change your situation. The first job in a desired field is always the hardest to get because of little to no experience. Don't be afraid to try something in a similar field than the one you intended; you may find you like it better, or it may give you the experience to get your foot in the door in the intended field. Thank you for posting this, and I'll pray that you find a way out of this. You can do it!

Re: 22 and no life

#128

Good suggestions here already. You might look for jobs on Craigslist. It sounds like right now you're looking for anyjob, for cash/rent. Be willing to do about anything, you're not choosing a career right now you're just taking money from people without stealing. Depending on who you work for, some of them might have interesting ideas or contacts. If you can get to North Dakota you might work in the oil fields, but I…

!!!NORTH DAKOTA or the military... It be BOOM times in the oil patch. Housing is tough, but find a job that will put you up at the man camps. Search google for north dakota oil jobs and whatnot...

Summer is rolling around so make sure to be there before all the southern guys come back up after leaving for the winter. I plan on looking for a oil field job soon. After years in college, grad school, working at a corp job doing ASICs/FPGAs paying less than 70k, I hear its pretty easy to make +100k in the oil fields. Just make sure you are "mobile". I won't be slack work but you will be able to bank enough money to go to school. I hear of plenty of college age kids working the summer in the fields and end up staying in the fields( not going back to college). If I where you, plan on working a year or two, saving up a "pile of money", and then working on some degree. Remember, you will be a old man in tech by the time you get your degree and what will reduce your chances for employment. Tech is a wicked mistress!

.... If not, look at Udacity and the other MOOCs.

Re: 22 and no life

#129
When I was 22, I was homeless, too. I didn't really snap to this fact until many years later: I had no home, therefore I was homeless. Everything I would want to say to you, someone else has already said in one of the other comments (eg, rejected by the Air Force, turned out that the best place for me was in college). So I'm just posting to tell you to keep your pecker up (hey, it's Scottish and it means keep your spirits up, it just sounds funnier). I'd hug you, too, if I could. Keep working to outrun your fear.

Re: 22 and no life

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post #53

I'm in what might be considered a precursor to this situation. I'm a high schooler and although I have a fair amount of technical skill, finding employment has been a fruitless endeavor. I fear that my inability to find freelance work or secure an internship will preclude me from the vast majority of jobs. Moreover, my grades are fairly mediocre (something largely attributable to depression and general apathy), which…

I have a degree from a state college and do quite well for myself. I don't work at Google or Yahoo, but since I graduated in 2006 I've never been without a well paying job, or offers for one.

If you're studying computer science or a related field, your ROI is going to be just fine at a state university.

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