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Re: 22 and no life

#41
I can give you advice that I would give myself at 22 if I could.

Connect with people who have similar interests than you. They're out there either online or otherwise but find a group of like minded individuals - preferably find a group that gets you to connect face to face. If you aren't comfortable hanging out with them because you keep kicking yourself about your shortcomings, you need to get over that. But once you find a group just show up. 80% is just showing up.

Don't over-think. Find something that's interesting to you, and instead of thinking "wow I don't know if this will pan out" ask yourself "do I enjoy this?" If the answer is yes, do it. Don't worry too much if in three months from now you have a better idea and your current idea doesn't seem so interesting anymore. You're building up experience.

Be social, go someplace that's interesting. Talk to people, even if you're no good at it, you'll build up social skills. If people don't want to talk back, go find someone else that's interesting that's more receptive. Eventually you'll make friends and build up your social skills.

Build a support network from friends and family that you know love you and care for you. They are there even if it's a small group of people. Tell them what you're trying to do and talk to them. They may not have good advice but they'll listen and be supportive.

There's a lot of other good advice here, but these are just some of the things that I tell my brother who is almost twenty.

Re: 22 and no life

#43
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saving up $5000 is simply not feasible for a lot of people.

He's going to have to save up about that much to move pretty much anywhere that has better jobs, though.

So now you understand his mindset of feeling like he is trapped in the town he currently lives in.

Re: 22 and no life

#44
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's going to have to save up about that much to move pretty much anywhere that has better jobs, though.

So now you understand his mindset of feeling like he is trapped in the town he currently lives in.

Yes, but one can save up $5000 in a summer working full time in food service. I did it as a prep cook when I was 19.

Re: 22 and no life

#45
post #13

Work anywhere you can until you can save up about $5000. Then go to Australia on the working holiday visa. You can make $16/hr picking tomatoes or as a barista or $25 an hour shuffling stuff around at a building site. Save $20K while enjoying life, then move to California and do a 2 year degree at a community college for $36 per credit. Get good grades then transfer to a UC to complete a bachelor's at in state tuitio…

Saving up $5000 is simply not feasible for a lot of people.

What would you have him do then?

Re: 22 and no life

#46
post #35

These people telling you to move to California aren't necessarily giving the best advice. Seattle is like San Francisco with slightly less start-ups and 1/3rd the cost of living. Seattle also has Microsoft and a wide variety of businesses that support Microsoft. It also has a great public transit system that means you can live in one of the cheaper areas around Seattle (Wedgewood, Northgate, Central District, Georget…

1/3 the cost of living is a bit of an exaggeration. The census bureau (here: http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0728.p...) says San Francisco has an index of 164 compared to Seattle's 121.4. Perhaps you meant 1/3 less, which is almost right.

Re: 22 and no life

#47
Move in with someone. Attend community college for 2 years taking basics (anything that can transfer: govt, hist, math, bio, chem, engl) on only PELL grants. With a 0 EFC and independence, you should qualify for Pell. A Pell grant should cover books and tuition. Finding someone to take you in should not be that hard. People love helping others in need.

Second, transfer to somewhere that will take your GPA and translate it directly into scholarships to pay for the rest of your education. Transfer that into a masters.

The US college is made for poor people to aspire and start again. Don't take out Stafford loans until you're working on a bachelor's degree.

(Source: 23, no life, homeless, no money, no car. 3.93 in community college, transferred to university that covered 75% in scholarships and 25% was Pell/Stafford. Now 27, still degreeless, but by choice. Finally, landed a decent job.)

If college is not an option due to existing loans, and this is a complete shame, craigslist jobs can actually land you freelance work. If college is an option, ie: no existing loans, shoot me an email.

Re: 22 and no life

#48
Although I cannot say I hav been in the same situation as you, I can empathize and offer my sincerest sympathies for your struggle. I noticed you want to be a programmer, there are m any options.

Check out appacademy.io. They are a 10 week programming bootcamp learning ruby, rails, JavaScript and HTML5. Because you already have programming experience, you are above the rest and may have a better chance getting in. It's completely free to attend and you only have to pay if you get a job after the program.

It's run by a group of hackers, and you can email Ned Ruggeri and apply once you check out the site. They have classes in San Francisco and NYC.

I hope everything works out for you man. Not to sound too cliche, but what I have found is it truly is the darkest before the dawn. I attended college (I'm 21), got tired of it, started a couple businesses but I wanted to do more. I applied to Dev Bootcamp and got in, and I will be there in April. Keep your head up and never stop hustling to get what YOU want.

Best of luck.

Re: 22 and no life

#49
At your age I was working in a bookstore for 7.75 an hour. After that, I worked a graveyard shift at a residential treatment facility for 11/hour. Since then I've built and sold companies, raised venture money, etc. I started the good stuff near the age of thirty but I enjoyed the low-money years.

Step one is getting yourself happy. Punt the toxic people in your life, focus on friendships, exercise, and mental health (it sounds like you're depressed), and save up a few nickels. There'll be time enough for financial ambition down the road.

Re: 22 and no life

#50
post #28

I've been where you are right now. Only I was married with 4 kids and one on the way. No job, No home, No degree, and what looked like No future. I don't know what your exact circumstances are but here is how I went from there to working for Google. 1. I got exposure. I hung out online with open source developers and participated. I did stuff in perl and blogged about it. 2. I did whatever I needed to to survive and…

How does one find an (appropriate) open source project to contribute to, especially as a C#, Asp.Net or Java developer?
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