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How the Maker of TurboTax Fought Free, Simple Tax Filing

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Re: How the Maker of TurboTax Fought Free, Simple Tax Filing

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It's 3 years generally, 6 years for fraud, and infinite if you don't file. (IANALTAX, of course)

IANALTAX? I'm sure it's not a lube from apple. However a quick google search didn't turn up anything.

I Am Not A Lawyer (Tax), I meant.

Re: How the Maker of TurboTax Fought Free, Simple Tax Filing

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OMG big business is trying to ruin my life! The government are not incentivized to do a good job preparing your taxes. I'm not a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist. I don't think the US government wants to institute a program to systematically defraud the population. But I do believe that governmental inefficiency and incompetence is nigh-limitless, and the very people who may need their tax returns the most could end u…

So, to extend your analogy, if flight was just invented and a flight transport system was being proposed now, you would argue against it because TSA would start violating your liberties when you use it and deterioration of existing horse carriage-based infrastructure will make opt-out a non-option?

Re: How the Maker of TurboTax Fought Free, Simple Tax Filing

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I haven't manually entered more than a trivial amount data into TurboTax in years. Most banks and brokerages seem to be on the direct-download bandwagon these days.

Are you endorsing TurboTax as some sort of appropriate monopoly on tax prep? My bank can tie in to TurboTax, but why should I have to support a private company lobbying to make the tax code worse on purpose just to do my taxes easily? I went through the same thing as the commenter above and it was OBNOXIOUS. Even worse, there's no real reason for it be done the way it is. Oh, and then I realized I'd made a really stu…

Tax Slayer is cheaper and better than turbo tax. fyi

Re: How the Maker of TurboTax Fought Free, Simple Tax Filing

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>In Australia I think they can go back 7 years. No idea what it is in the US. It's 3 years. And fairly easy to look up: http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Em... Those records generally should be kept for three years from the date the tax return was filed. >Yes by all means send me to prison for failing to mention a $24,000 retirement account in Australia I can't touch until I'm 65 instead. Great us…

"The IRS doesn't put anyone in prison for making a mistake. You have to willfully try to cheat on your taxes, multiple times, before you're even close to the position of facing jail time." You only really face jail time if you do something else on top of tax evasion (like money laundering for a drug cartel).

This is false, they specifically make examples of folks (especially so with businesses) that attempt to defraud the IRS. http://www.irs.gov/uac/Examples-of-Employment-Tax-Fraud-Inve...

Re: How the Maker of TurboTax Fought Free, Simple Tax Filing

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There are two things that disturb me about the US government: 1. As a whole, it seems to operate on the assumption of guilt; and 2. It seems bought and paid for by special interests, pork barrelling and so forth. As a foreigner I of course have foreign retirement and bank accounts. If they total more than $10,000 (at any point in the last calendar year) you need to report them. This is FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Repo…

My situation mirrors yours. I'm an American living in Australia.

The FBAR requirements and penalties are completely ridiculous, I couldn't agree more on this point.

On the issue of the ATO e-tax system, it's not that incredibly awesome. I still use an accountant to maximize my tax refund. Costs me $250. Totally worth it for the additional taxes I save.

For my USA taxes, I use TaxACT. Completely free and that includes one free e-file.

From a practical perspective, this is a complete non-issue. You CAN e-file your taxes easily and for free in the USA, it's just not a service supplied by the government.

Re: How the Maker of TurboTax Fought Free, Simple Tax Filing

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post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The IRS doesn't put anyone in prison for making a mistake. You have to willfully try to cheat on your taxes, multiple times, before you're even close to the position of facing jail time." You only really face jail time if you do something else on top of tax evasion (like money laundering for a drug cartel).

This is false, they specifically make examples of folks (especially so with businesses) that attempt to defraud the IRS. http://www.irs.gov/uac/Examples-of-Employment-Tax-Fraud-Inve...

Did you read the examples? In many of these cases, tax fraud isn't the primary factor:

"On September 18, 2012, in Cincinnati, Ohio, Larry Lough, of West Chester, Ohio, was sentenced to 24 months in prison, three years of supervised release, and ordered to pay $757,751 in restitution to defrauded investors and $145,175 in restitution to the IRS. Lough pleaded guilty on February 15, 2012, to conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud, conspiracy to commit employment tax fraud and income tax evasion."

Re: How the Maker of TurboTax Fought Free, Simple Tax Filing

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Here in the state of Virginia, we never had return-free filing for state taxes. But we did have free online filing of state tax returns. It was cheaper for the state to process the online returns rather than paper forms. However, the legislature decided that it wasn't proper for the state government to provide for free a service that should be provided by private enterprise. So now your choices are to file paper forms (which costs the state more to process) or file electronically, which, of course, costs you, the taxpaer, money. . .but is quite a boon for private enterprise.

Re: How the Maker of TurboTax Fought Free, Simple Tax Filing

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post #236

There are two things that disturb me about the US government: 1. As a whole, it seems to operate on the assumption of guilt; and 2. It seems bought and paid for by special interests, pork barrelling and so forth. As a foreigner I of course have foreign retirement and bank accounts. If they total more than $10,000 (at any point in the last calendar year) you need to report them. This is FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Repo…

FYI, the California fire retardants law was recently repealed after that nytimes article brought it to everybody's attention. http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Flame-retardant-law-ma...

If you depend on high-grade investigative reporting to weed out the most obvious, ridiculous rent seeking, you've already lost.
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