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Re: Mailchimp offers 10% discount for using 2-factor security

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Note that this is not a new service, but the discount percentage has been increased: “Previously, we gave a 2% discount, which was probably only significant for high volume senders. 10% makes it significant for everybody.” However, I'm still not doing it – too much hassle. Instead, I just have 1Password create unique passwords for each service I use and change the passwords once in a while. That said: I'm a satisfied…

The cyclical password change for my dozens of accounts would be a constant pain. Some of these accounts also need to be used on mobile devices where 1password doesn't auto-fill (ie, iPad). Add to that sharing certain of these accounts with spouse/family and you have serious friction to constant credentials updates.

Re: Mailchimp offers 10% discount for using 2-factor security

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post #11

Note that this is not a new service, but the discount percentage has been increased: “Previously, we gave a 2% discount, which was probably only significant for high volume senders. 10% makes it significant for everybody.” However, I'm still not doing it – too much hassle. Instead, I just have 1Password create unique passwords for each service I use and change the passwords once in a while. That said: I'm a satisfied…

The cyclical password change for my dozens of accounts would be a constant pain. Some of these accounts also need to be used on mobile devices where 1password doesn't auto-fill (ie, iPad). Add to that sharing certain of these accounts with spouse/family and you have serious friction to constant credentials updates.

The LastPass app on mobile devices worked great for me; true, it doesn't auto-fill, but copying and pasting the passwords is fairly painless.

And I think LastPass also supports multiple Identities, though I'm not sure how that works.

Re: Mailchimp offers 10% discount for using 2-factor security

#13

It had me until Alter Ego. Why not just use Google Authenticator?

Lead engineer at MailChimp here. Funny you should mention it, but tomorrow we're going to be launching Google Authenticator and YubiKey integrations with AlterEgo so you can use those as you like. We're also working on a Duo integration, but no ETA there.

Re: Mailchimp offers 10% discount for using 2-factor security

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It had me until Alter Ego. Why not just use Google Authenticator?

Lead engineer at MailChimp here. Funny you should mention it, but tomorrow we're going to be launching Google Authenticator and YubiKey integrations with AlterEgo so you can use those as you like. We're also working on a Duo integration, but no ETA there.

BTW, Duo's android app now supports adding TOTP accounts, same as Google Authenticator does (though I'm not sure about QR code support).

Duo's app is actually better than GA by allowing rearrangement of accounts, which is a long-standing open bug in GA.

Re: Mailchimp offers 10% discount for using 2-factor security

#15

It had me until Alter Ego. Why not just use Google Authenticator?

Lead engineer at MailChimp here. Funny you should mention it, but tomorrow we're going to be launching Google Authenticator and YubiKey integrations with AlterEgo so you can use those as you like. We're also working on a Duo integration, but no ETA there.

neat, announce that tomorrow again and i'll set it up :)

Re: Mailchimp offers 10% discount for using 2-factor security

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cyclical password change for my dozens of accounts would be a constant pain. Some of these accounts also need to be used on mobile devices where 1password doesn't auto-fill (ie, iPad). Add to that sharing certain of these accounts with spouse/family and you have serious friction to constant credentials updates.

The LastPass app on mobile devices worked great for me; true, it doesn't auto-fill, but copying and pasting the passwords is fairly painless. And I think LastPass also supports multiple Identities, though I'm not sure how that works.

My company uses lastpass to share passwords. Any passwords that is saved to the 'shared accounts' folder is automatically shared to everyone on the team.

Re: Mailchimp offers 10% discount for using 2-factor security

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MailChimp founder here. Here's a little back story to Alter Ego, since it does tend to confuse people. There was a time, not long ago, when email providers were under attack and suffering from some major breaches (http://www.cauce.org/2011/04/epsilon-interactive-breach-the-...). It's hard to describe the feeling of helplessness when you watch industry peers get systematically attacked like that. We wanted to do whatever we could to prevent that by providing 2FA protection to our customers. We researched RSA and other solutions. It seemed way too costly to ship key fobs to millions of users (our larger users could afford it, but not our vast majority of small business users, who are the ones who need the most help w/security). Still, we ordered the RSA hardware and fobs to try it out. While the equipment was all en route, RSA was breached (http://blogs.rsa.com/anatomy-of-an-attack/). To be safe, they told us we had to wait for new hardware to be re-issued. There's that feeling of helplessness again. We decided not to wait, and to just roll our own 2F app because we could make it free and easier than most (2 critical requirements for our SMB user base).

It's important to note that Google Authenticator wasn't yet open for integration (trust me--we badly wished for it). There were only rumors that they might open it up, and frankly, we couldn't wait for them to decide. Now we all know that it's been opened up, which is nice. And fwiw, in the next couple days we'll be announcing support in Alter Ego for Google Authenticator and Yubi Key pass-through.

Someone mentioned Duo. That's an impressive app. We didn't know it existed until after we launched AlterEgo (their CEO introduced himself in the comments when we launched AlterEgo). I was blown away by what a thorough app it was. Still, it wasn't "free enough" for our users (Gasp! How dare they charge money?!?). Remember, we wanted maximum usage, so it was important to make a free app. We could theoretically and happily do a pass-through integration for Duo users too.

Someone mentioned the uncertainty of relying on a Google service, considering Google's recent "spring cleaning" of Google Reader. Roughly around the time we launched AlterEgo, I don't remember all that much spring cleaning going on at Google, so I can't say we had concerns they'd kill their 2FA service. I vaguely recall them deprecating the Google Translate API (which we heavily relied on) and I vividly remember them sending us a ginormous bill for using their Maps API. Larry Page hadn't yet made his "more wood behind fewer arrows" statement, but the writing was on the wall that we can't all just feast off of Google's generosity and altruism forever. So at that time, I think we were more concerned about Google eventually charging us for the service (God forbid, right?). If we had even tens of thousands of users activating, that would be a bit expensive.

Hope that explains things.

Re: Mailchimp offers 10% discount for using 2-factor security

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post #11

Note that this is not a new service, but the discount percentage has been increased: “Previously, we gave a 2% discount, which was probably only significant for high volume senders. 10% makes it significant for everybody.” However, I'm still not doing it – too much hassle. Instead, I just have 1Password create unique passwords for each service I use and change the passwords once in a while. That said: I'm a satisfied…

The cyclical password change for my dozens of accounts would be a constant pain. Some of these accounts also need to be used on mobile devices where 1password doesn't auto-fill (ie, iPad). Add to that sharing certain of these accounts with spouse/family and you have serious friction to constant credentials updates.

1Password has an iOS app that does autofill webforms.
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