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The Summly deal makes no sense

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Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

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I feel this would be an appropriate subject for a Dilbert comic. Storyline is that someone accidentally left the dot out of $300000.00 to make it $30000000 and then everyone else went along with it for fear of looking stupid.

A decimal point? I always mess up some mundane detail!

In quite a few countries "." is the thousand separator, and the "," is the decimal point...

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#182

Right after college I started consulting at an eCommerce company that had bought a 17 year old's website for over 1M. Had had built a gaming community site that had become very popular and they wanted the traffic. I thought the kid was just lucky until I was in a meeting with him. His thought process basically ran circles around everyone else in the room, some twice his age. I realized then, that there are kids, KIDS…

Sometimes it's not that they are smarter it's just that they aren't constrained by current thinking, maybe even the pragmatism that comes from experience.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

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Summly has no real history to speak of, but Yahoo clearly has a long, sad, sorry history of overpaying for little nascent startups, failing to capitalize on them and then eventually letting them fall apart while missing out on larger trends.

At first it seems that whether or not this deal makes sense to you depends on whether or not you're a shareholder of Yahoo or a shareholder of Summly. But keep in mind that if Yahoo didn't make a similar deal with ViaWeb a decade ago there may not be a YC or any of the companies they helped start.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#184
post #123

For some who need perspective: Right now, somewhere in the world, a child is being born into an uberly rich family. That child will grow up to inherit millions for absolutely no work. He'll live the good life full of yachts and private jets. Right now, somewhere in the world, there is a party happening full of gorgeous wealthy people who need not lift a finger to attain the luxuries that they have. Their success is o…

This is good perspective and i think it's good to keep this in mind, but let's not forget the other end of the spectrum: Right now, somewhere in the world, a child is being born in a farm house with a dirt floor. That child will grow up to die in a civil war before age 14. Right now, somewhere in the world, there are people waiting in line to get food from a charity. Right now, somewhere in the world, someone is suff…

The bell curve is a harsh mistress.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#185
post #123

For some who need perspective: Right now, somewhere in the world, a child is being born into an uberly rich family. That child will grow up to inherit millions for absolutely no work. He'll live the good life full of yachts and private jets. Right now, somewhere in the world, there is a party happening full of gorgeous wealthy people who need not lift a finger to attain the luxuries that they have. Their success is o…

>I get down about how unfair that is from time to time, but there's nothing you can really do about it, other than focus on your work.

I regret upvoting you prior to finishing your post.

This is bullshit. Of course we can do something about it. We're members of a society, and if we collectively think something is bullshit, we can do something about it.

I'm tired of people looking at these absurd inequities and shrugging and putting their head down and hoping maybe they'll get lucky too. In the meanwhile, these people at the top are ensuring that only people like them can continue to succeed.

Let's tax everyone who didn't earn their wealth. Let's put an end to dumb gambles that only reward people born at the top.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#186
post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unfair It's laughable that a programmer would worry about how unfair the industry is on the top end. Do you get how lucky we are compared even to other engineers? To say nothing of service workers who work much harder for much less.

Every now and again, if I feel I need more money, I take a look at http://www.globalrichlist.com/ and plop in my current salary. Though the numbers are probably a bit dated by now, it's quite sobering.

Well, every now and again, I come across this type of salary comparison charts, and realize that out of context they make no sense at all. And with some context - hmmm.. Nope, not much sense either.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#187
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the point was that Yahoo, a public company, was throwing away 30 million for no apparent gain.

The are buying traction. That's 30 million dollars worth of it. It could make them back that much money by getting people to start using Yahoo again.

What happened to the good ole days when a huge corporation would just implement the app on their own and cut out the need for an aquisition?

For $30 million, even an order of magnitude less, I think a lot of us could put together a team good enough to implement the Summly app. That's what's being questioned by the blog post.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#188
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm 21, probably out of the definition of 'younger person' by a while, but even I don't get it. $30m is a lot for what I assume is an application of SRI's technology. Still seems to me like Yahoo! is a place where engineers are handed the purse strings, a la 2005 era.

I'd say so, Marissa Mayer was an engineer before becoming an executive.

Marissa Mayer was an engineer before becoming an executive.

Was she? Her career essentially started at Google, her rise arguably being one of right place/right time.

For all of the talk about Mayer, I have literally never heard about anything actually interesting that she has done. Instead it's her 90 hour work weeks, n-shades of blue, and abrasive attitudes with others. She sounds like management through and through.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#189
post #123

For some who need perspective: Right now, somewhere in the world, a child is being born into an uberly rich family. That child will grow up to inherit millions for absolutely no work. He'll live the good life full of yachts and private jets. Right now, somewhere in the world, there is a party happening full of gorgeous wealthy people who need not lift a finger to attain the luxuries that they have. Their success is o…

This is good perspective and i think it's good to keep this in mind, but let's not forget the other end of the spectrum: Right now, somewhere in the world, a child is being born in a farm house with a dirt floor. That child will grow up to die in a civil war before age 14. Right now, somewhere in the world, there are people waiting in line to get food from a charity. Right now, somewhere in the world, someone is suff…

Actually, I've come to believe that complaining is an inherent aspect of human nature. Everybody complains; its just that you don't hear much from the above-mentioned as they do not write blogs which make the frontpage on Reddit or HN (let alone popular media) and/or are not part of your immediate circle of friends (to whom we usually air our grievances)

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#190
post #123

For some who need perspective: Right now, somewhere in the world, a child is being born into an uberly rich family. That child will grow up to inherit millions for absolutely no work. He'll live the good life full of yachts and private jets. Right now, somewhere in the world, there is a party happening full of gorgeous wealthy people who need not lift a finger to attain the luxuries that they have. Their success is o…

As a 17 year old I think this is awesome and stupid (at the same time). It's pretty eye opening that if a 17 year old can make an app and get bought for a lot of money, it's possible for anyone to.

As awesome as it is for the guy, this doesn't change the fact that a Summly got paid so much for a 2 employees and a founder. I mean the app hardly had traction and $30 million can you get you a nice army of talented mobile developers with signing bonus'. $30M really isn't justified in this case.

Congrats to the summly team, but it's also really sad how desperate and pathetic Yahoo is.

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