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Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by asdfaoeu »

spinchange wrote: post #64
Karunamon wrote: post #42

This seems mighty kneejerk-y. A duplicaton issue causes your contacts to disappear, therefore you should move your contacts and calendar away from a service that probably has better engineers, better backup, better redundancy, and better uptime than any one of us could possibly muster, and onto a somewhat immature product with worse functionality and integration which is by no means immune to the same kind of problem…

What about Google shutting down the open standard for syncing contact and calendar data across platforms? I don't ask this as a form of "anti-Google sentiment," but as a legitimate question. The announcement that they would be phasing out ActiveSync support at the end of last year coupled with the announcement just made that they were doing the same for CalDAV/CardDav (when they announced the end of Reader) indicate…

Just move it when/if they shutdown the service? It's not like they are going to suddenly shutdown the service or remove your ability to export contacts.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by Terretta »

eddieroger wrote: post #41
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #26

I like ownCloud but it is very immature. I mean it looks very snazzy right when you first install it and start to use it, but has a lot of little issues hidden under the surface. Couple of examples: Randomly deleting files because it got confused. Infinite loops. Essentially unusable on Windows servers (don't even try). etc. As I said, I like OwnCloud, and I think it has a very bright future ahead of it. But it isn't…

That's discomforting, because I just installed it. I don't really need or want the filesharing bits, but a shared family calendar has been a holy grail for my family for a while now, and this seemed to be the quickest and closest way of doing it cross-platform.

> a shared family calendar has been a holy grail for my family for a while now

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with clicking the "Share" button on an iCal, sorry, iCloud Calendar? My family (incl those on Windows) finds this works well.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by lucb1e »

mikeratcliffe wrote: post #50
lucb1e wrote: post #14

Nice URL and "Error establishing a database connection" . I smell Wordpress. Here's a cached version: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp...

My bad, my cache plugin was not working ... fixed.

I use own blogging software on a low-end Intel Atom which keeps consistently generating pages around 20ms under load. So imho Wordpress is the fault here, not the caching plugin. Of course Wordpress is great software to use as writer and has a lot of features that are very easy to use, so I understand why you'd use it. I just think it's cool when I'm running something on 10x slower hardware than everyone else without compromising on performance.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by jfb »

jimktrains2 wrote: post #51
antihero wrote: post #7

Is there something like ownCloud that uses Python/PostgreSQL? I don't really want to pollute my server with MySQL/PHP.

This type of mentality is poisonous. You're not "polluting" your server. It doesn't add anything to the discussion; all it does is troll and set up flame-wars. There are other good reasons to want something written in your own pet language (e.g. "I want to modify it". "I don't want to learn how to admin MySQL", even), but just claiming "pollution" isn't a good one IMO.

"I don't want sloppy, badly implemented software on a VPS I administer."

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by traxtech »

rdl wrote: post #43

While it's patent/licensing encumbered, I still prefer ActiveSync based solutions, just because they do good push for iOS/Android, are easy to manage, give you "free" lightweight MDM functionality, etc. There are a few open source ActiveSync tools (which may be in violation of Microsoft IP), but I just use a commercial one (for work). Still thinking of screwing with the free ones for a personal server vs. strictly IM…

Do you mind citing a stable open source ActiveSync solutions ?

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Post by jvdh »

"Click “Advanced” and select your database options. A MySQL DB will be way faster than a SQLite DB."

Do you really think you can really notice the microsecond that MySQL will be faster than SQLite? We are talking about a database that is going to host what, maybe 5 megabytes worth of data?

We are talking about calendars and contacts here, this is not stuff that you will sync every second, and will not contain large amounts of records.

Hosting this stuff in an SQLite database makes things like backup and security a whole lot easier. You don't really need a complicated database server just to store your phone numbers...

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by adestefan »

jimktrains2 wrote: post #51
antihero wrote: post #7

Is there something like ownCloud that uses Python/PostgreSQL? I don't really want to pollute my server with MySQL/PHP.

This type of mentality is poisonous. You're not "polluting" your server. It doesn't add anything to the discussion; all it does is troll and set up flame-wars. There are other good reasons to want something written in your own pet language (e.g. "I want to modify it". "I don't want to learn how to admin MySQL", even), but just claiming "pollution" isn't a good one IMO.

Why the wording wasn't great, it is a valid concern. If you already have a server running Postgres, then maintaining a separate MySQL install really is a pain, especially when it comes to being up to date on security.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by sdoering »

casca wrote: post #69
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #26

I like ownCloud but it is very immature. I mean it looks very snazzy right when you first install it and start to use it, but has a lot of little issues hidden under the surface. Couple of examples: Randomly deleting files because it got confused. Infinite loops. Essentially unusable on Windows servers (don't even try). etc. As I said, I like OwnCloud, and I think it has a very bright future ahead of it. But it isn't…

I dumped ownCloud after it deleted a critical file for some unknown reason. The bug is still open. Maybe the calendar and addressbook handling is better, but I won't be trusting it.

Good to know. Well I never had problems with the calender or the bookmarks up till now (6 months going).

But I do not use it for files. So good to know, that there might be a problem.

Did it "loose" the files, deleting the files from the server, or just the "link" to the files?

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by joering2 »

bhauer wrote: post #48
Karunamon wrote: post #42

This seems mighty kneejerk-y. A duplicaton issue causes your contacts to disappear, therefore you should move your contacts and calendar away from a service that probably has better engineers, better backup, better redundancy, and better uptime than any one of us could possibly muster, and onto a somewhat immature product with worse functionality and integration which is by no means immune to the same kind of problem…

I only skimmed the article. But I agree with your worry that this looks to be instructions that could put anyone who follows them at even higher risk of pain. The aesthetic of the web site doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about the quality of the tools being promoted. That said, I suspect a key point the author would make in response to our concern is that we can vigorously backup the server hosting our conta…

> The aesthetic of the web site doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about the quality of the tools being promoted.

Have you ever fired any of Oracle Corp setup/installers?

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